In praise of George W. Bush

[topcat989]

Originally Posted by bingstudent

"I am driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And, by God, I'm gonna do it."

pretty telling shit man ...

except it's not true

[Bread Mafia]

Originally Posted by domonbaylespam

I would agree with the OP, while definitely not the brightest bulb, I dont think he ever had ill intentions. He tried hard to do what he thought was right, even when hated for it.

I wanted to think this way for his first year or two. The other 6 or 7 really shattered the illusion.

[Coqui]

Originally Posted by bingstudent

"I am driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And, by God, I'm gonna do it."

pretty telling shit man ...

So did he get the band back together?

[chuckybob]

Originally Posted by Bukkakeboy

This is not the measure of a good leader.

A good leader makes _good_ decisions.

thats crap. no one bats 1000. a good leader is someone who can unite people towards a purpose.

[bingstudent]

abbas had his arm twisted by bush and co.

[SemperFly]

of course he did. because that fits in with your agenda. surely your ideas of bush can never be proven wrong despite evidence to the contrary. nay, all things negative must be assumed sacrosanct and taken at face value

[TheMorlock]

Originally Posted by bingstudent

abbas had his arm twisted by bush and co.

bongstudent strikes again

[joemama]

Originally Posted by bingstudent

abbas had his arm twisted by bush and co.

The Palestinian leader lends a helping hand to the country that is enabling Israel to pwn his country on a daily basis? Makes perfect sense to me..

[bingstudent]

It's pretty well know that Abbas was a Bush / Olmert shill ... that's what caused the huge political schism in the west bank, remember the change and reform party's (hamas) huge election victories that lead to their expulsion to gaza?

It's astounding when people pontificate on the issue without even knowing or understanding the recent history

[SemperFly]

Totally well known. Because you say so. Sure thing, buppy.

[bingstudent]

pick up the new york times once in a while, might learn something!

[bingstudent]

Originally Posted by http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090615/abunimah

Hamas, by contrast, emerged from Israel's attack on Gaza with enhanced legitimacy and popularity. That attack was only the latest of numerous efforts to topple the movement following its decisive victory in the 2006 legislative elections. In addition to the Israeli siege, these efforts have included a failed insurgency by Contra-style anti-Hamas militias nominally loyal to Abbas and funded and trained by the United States under the supervision of Lieut. Gen. Keith Dayton. If Obama were serious about making real progress, one of the first things he would do is ditch the Bush-era policy of backing Palestinian puppets and lift the American veto on reconciliation efforts aimed at creating a unified, representative and credible Palestinian leadership.

And before you scream source bias ( OMG THE NATION IS LIBERAL LULZ! DURR DURR ), Ali Abunimah is the co-founder of Electronic Intifada and has been published in newspapers across the political spectrum (from the guardian to the washington post).

[bingstudent]

Also remember that the US and Israel control almost 90 percent of the international aid that reaches Palestine and Israel collects taxes in almost three quarters of the West Bank. That money is used to pressure the Palestinian leadership into doing pretty much whatever the US and Israeli politicians want.

[Patriotic Eagle]

Originally Posted by SemperFly

of course he did. because that fits in with your agenda. surely your ideas of bush can never be proven wrong despite evidence to the contrary. nay, all things negative must be assumed sacrosanct and taken at face value

The only evidence is that Bush is a highly immoral person who justifies his crimes via religion. That's why he framed the fight in Iraq as fighting against "demons" when trying to get Chirac on board, that's why he had private reports on the war filled with religious symbolism and rhetoric, that's why the right constantly couches the current wars in religious terms.

[Patriotic Eagle]

Originally Posted by joemama

.....unless the entire UN was willing to just drop the whole thing and pretend it wasn't a problem to the region.

Funny, that's what the US did when it was busy getting it's dick sucked by dictators who where just as brutal as Saddam in the Americas and Asia. Saddam wasn't especially dangerous, he just provided a convenient backdrop for Americans to pretend like they were fighting a moral war.