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Sorry oh clueless one the average wait time for certain life saving surgeries in Canada is longer than the average life expectancy. Surgeries you can get in under a week in the US.

And then we have The Netherlands

http://heart.bmj.com/content/81/6/593.abstract

Now tell me again how the other countries are pulling it off.

I have recently had two co workers have heart attacks. Find them laying down unconscious severity. They had their surgeries overnight with stents installed and were back to work in less than 2 weeks.
The number of people who die from heart related problems in the US for never getting treated is far higher than 100 a year you stupid piece of shit.
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and their care is first rate without going more and more red (deficit), right?

11% of GDP to cover everyone vs 16% of US GDP to cover some
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Sorry oh clueless one the average wait time for certain life saving surgeries in Canada is longer than the average life expectancy. Surgeries you can get in under a week in the US.

And then we have The Netherlands

http://heart.bmj.com/content/81/6/593.abstract

Now tell me again how the other countries are pulling it off.

I have recently had two co workers have heart attacks. Find them laying down unconscious severity. They had their surgeries overnight with stents installed and were back to work in less than 2 weeks.

Dual tier system addresses both issues.
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and their care is first rate without going more and more red (deficit), right?

And they aren't addressing it either right?
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What part of THE NETHERLANDS link did you not understand?

The part where you keep saying this is a bad idea but neglect the ones that actually work.
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The number of people who die from heart related problems in the US for never getting treated is far higher than 100 a year you stupid piece of shit.

It's ok. People who don't seek medical treatment because they can't afford it don't count against the US.
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The number of people who die from heart related problems in the US for never getting treated is far higher than 100 a year you stupid piece of shit.

I keep forgetting how dimwitted you are. Thanks for reminding me yet again.
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Sorry oh clueless one the average wait time for certain life saving surgeries in Canada is longer than the average life expectancy. Surgeries you can get in under a week in the US.

And then we have The Netherlands

http://heart.bmj.com/content/81/6/593.abstract

Now tell me again how the other countries are pulling it off.

I have recently had two co workers have heart attacks. Find them laying down unconscious severity. They had their surgeries overnight with stents installed and were back to work in less than 2 weeks.

But you didnt have to adopt a really bad system, so why are you comparing it to that?

Oh, because its an easy way to make your argument look solid to a 10yr old kid.
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yeah, I'm a regular target on the daily show

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No you're just a douche nozzle.
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No you're just a douche nozzle.

please put more effort into this. if I click the new posts icon I expect to be rewarded
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please put more effort into this. if I click the new posts icon I expect to be rewarded

You are an ass to mouth douche nozzle?
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All joking aside though George Bush started a war based on lies that resulted in the death of a million people, left millions homeless, severely mentally/physically disabled, and retired to a life of opulence, occasionally spending time on humanitarian efforts like Haiti to be lauded as a compassionate man. Hope this clears things up OP some people haven't been straightforward with you.

Pretty sure we ended up going to war because Saddam was hell-bent on not letting investigators search for anything for well over a month. Definitely enough time to move any weapons to a surrounding country. Bush did everything he could to try to get investigators in, but the Iraqi government refused, so cue the war.

If it was done right the first time, the coups organized by the CIA to bring down Iraq's regime from the inside wouldn't have failed, then there would be no modern Iraqi War.

Here's an interesting quote from Dick Cheney in 1992:

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I would guess if we had gone in there, we would still have forces in Baghdad today. We'd be running the country. We would not have been able to get everybody out and bring everybody home.

And the final point that I think needs to be made is this question of casualties. I don't think you could have done all of that without significant additional U.S. casualties, and while everybody was tremendously impressed with the low cost of the (1991) conflict, for the 146 Americans who were killed in action and for their families, it wasn't a cheap war. And the question in my mind is, how many additional American casualties is Saddam (Hussein) worth? And the answer is, not that damned many. So, I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the President made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq
Don't forget the treaty that Saddam was regularly going against, you know, the one with the no-fly zone, and that allows UN weapons inspectors in.
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And let us not forget how the economy tumbled (Thanks to Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Tim Geithner, and greedy banks) with a democratic majority, regardless of who you want to blame the recession on.
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And let us not forget how the economy tumbled (Thanks to Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Tim Geithner, and greedy banks) with a democratic majority, regardless of who you want to blame the recession on.

Six years of Republican economic policies and you think it matters that the Democrats happened to take over the year the house of cards finally came down?
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The number of people who die from heart related problems in the US for never getting treated is far higher than 100 a year you stupid piece of shit.

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