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Good for them. The government should give every citizen a monthly food stipend.
Why? Would just work out to a general tax increase on everyone and you'd lose out overall due to overhead costs and such.
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I do have a issue with people taking advantage of welfare though. The issue is that you can stay on it indefinitely. There should be a year cut off or a set amount that you get just like unemployment. If the time runs out or you use your set amount and still don't have a job, tough shit.
Food stamps are a form of welfare.
Old 02-11-2010, 05:26 PM Gibonius is offline  
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Drug tests would probably cost more than just handing out the stamps.

but they would save on overall costs when people who use narcotics can't get welfare.
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but they would save on overall costs when people who use narcotics can't get welfare.

And then the cost plus more can pop up elsewhere when the system has to deal with them stealing food/to get money for food.
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but they would save on overall costs when people who use narcotics can't get welfare.

True enough that some people would stop using drugs in order to get their welfare money, which would lower health care costs and probably reduce some crime.

Not entirely a bad idea in that regard.
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And then the cost plus more can pop up elsewhere when the system has to deal with them stealing food/to get money for food.

people are stealing left and right anyways.
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And then the cost plus more can pop up elsewhere when the system has to deal with them stealing food/to get money for food.

start shooting them
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start shooting them

if we start shooting all the really poor people, then all the averagely poor people will become the new really poor people. marketing firms will continue targeting the top 90% of the population, but this 90% will no longer exclude people at the poverty line, but only below it. that will force the price of goods upwards until the new really poor people (formerly averagely poor people) can no longer afford the cost of living and require food stamps to make ends meet. they will then be shot, forcing the well to do poor people to become the new-new really poor people and so on and so forth until either society collapses with no one willing and able to do manual labor, or only warren buffet is left standing.
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I am on food stamps and will try to stay on food stamps for as long as I can because I consider it good karma.

I consider it good karma because for every $200 I suck out of the government a month, I am taking away money that could have been spent on war.

See people who pay taxes are amassing bad karma by funding murder through war. I am amassing good karma by sucking those taxes away from war.

I actually tell everyone I come across to get on as money government programs for this reason. I will actually choose to work just enough hours, so that I don't make so much money as to disqualify me for food stamps for this reason.

I know this disagrees with some of your 'opinion' so much that you probably think I am trolling. But I am dead serious. When you pay taxes, your energy is going directly to the murder of other people. This means paying taxes is a sin in the first degree. Jesus did not say pay someone else to kill for you. Jesus said not to kill. Paying taxes means you are sinning and going to hell.

It is a simple truth that the black, borderline homeless man, living a humble life smoking crack while on as many government welfare programs is actually amassing more good karma than you are and closer to heaven than some hard-working, middle class Christian family who pays taxes timely and goes to church everyday. I mean so what if you go to church everyday, your still spending the other 95% of your waking life earning money to feed the very DEMON that is manifesting the hell your trying to rid of the earth of. I mean talk about some cognitive dissonance. On the contrary, the high homeless black dude just gets to sit around all day, high, and have something else provide all of his nourishment, while the middle class white family struggles and works there ass off. This is not some fluke of the system, it's because the homeless black dude is on the side of good karma.

At some point I will challenge federal tax laws claiming first amendment rights that it infringes on my right to practice my spiritual and religious beliefs of not killing people, by forcing me to fund the killing of people through military. But I couldn't afford that right now. So my only option is to suck as much energy out of the demon that is the US government as I can.

Think about this, if we ended the military budget, we could probably get every citizen a food stamp card 4 times over. Cursing socialist services for raising taxes is stupid. Curse what is TRULY unnecessary. Murder.

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I am on food stamps and will try to stay on food stamps for as long as I can because I consider it good karma.

I consider it good karma because for every $200 I suck out of the government a month, I am taking away money that could have been spent on war.

See people who pay taxes are amassing bad karma by funding murder through war. I am amassing good karma by sucking those taxes away from war.

I actually tell everyone I come across to get on as money government programs for this reason. I will actually choose to work just enough hours, so that I don't make so much money as to disqualify me for food stamps for this reason.

I know this disagrees with some of your 'opinion' so much that you probably think I am trolling. But I am dead serious. When you pay taxes, your energy is going directly to the murder of other people. This means paying taxes is a sin in the first degree. Jesus did not say pay someone else to kill for you. Jesus said not to kill. Paying taxes means you are sinning and going to hell.

It is a simple truth that the black, borderline homeless man, living a humble life smoking crack while on as many government welfare programs is actually amassing more good karma than you are and closer to heaven than some hard-working, middle class Christian family who pays taxes timely and goes to church everyday. I mean so what if you go to church everyday, your still spending the other 95% of your waking life earning money to feed the very DEMON that is manifesting the hell your trying to rid of the earth of. I mean talk about some cognitive dissonance. On the contrary, the high homeless black dude just gets to sit around all day, high, and have something else provide all of his nourishment, while the middle class white family struggles and works there ass off. This is not some fluke of the system, it's because the homeless black dude is on the side of good karma.

At some point I will challenge federal tax laws claiming first amendment rights that it infringes on my right to practice my spiritual and religious beliefs of not killing people, by forcing me to fund the killing of people through military. But I couldn't afford that right now. So my only option is to suck as much energy out of the demon that is the US government as I can.

Think about this, if we ended the military budget, we could probably get every citizen a food stamp card 4 times over. Cursing socialist services for raising taxes is stupid. Curse what is TRULY unnecessary. Murder.

I'd rather report you for fraud with my tax dollars and let you starve to death without a shred of remorse.
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what a retard

Whether your paying an assassin for hire, or your government to kill someone. It's the same thing. Your a murderer. Just because it has the seal of approval of "THE US GOVERNMENT" does not exempt it from the dynamics of karma.
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I'd rather report you for fraud with my tax dollars and let you starve to death without a shred of remorse.

Nothing I am doing is fraudulent.

Nothing of the food stamp program stipulates that a person has to try AS HARD AS POSSIBLE to make more than $1,160 a month as quickly as possible. It simply states that if you make less than $1,160 a month, then you qualify for food stamps.

Besides, I think it's more fraudulent from a spiritual standpoint to try as hard as possible to make more than $1,160 a month and then help finance the murder of people. I will not put anymore blood on my hands, I suggest if you ever wish to take responsibility for your soul, you find a way to do the same as well.

But I don't have to report you to anyone to atone for that fraudulent behavior. The dynamics of karma will take care of it by itself.

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I am on food stamps and will try to stay on food stamps for as long as I can because I consider it good karma.

I consider it good karma because for every $200 I suck out of the government a month, I am taking away money that could have been spent on war.

See people who pay taxes are amassing bad karma by funding murder through war. I am amassing good karma by sucking those taxes away from war.

I actually tell everyone I come across to get on as money government programs for this reason. I will actually choose to work just enough hours, so that I don't make so much money as to disqualify me for food stamps for this reason.

I know this disagrees with some of your 'opinion' so much that you probably think I am trolling. But I am dead serious. When you pay taxes, your energy is going directly to the murder of other people. This means paying taxes is a sin in the first degree. Jesus did not say pay someone else to kill for you. Jesus said not to kill. Paying taxes means you are sinning and going to hell.

It is a simple truth that the black, borderline homeless man, living a humble life smoking crack while on as many government welfare programs is actually amassing more good karma than you are and closer to heaven than some hard-working, middle class Christian family who pays taxes timely and goes to church everyday. I mean so what if you go to church everyday, your still spending the other 95% of your waking life earning money to feed the very DEMON that is manifesting the hell your trying to rid of the earth of. I mean talk about some cognitive dissonance. On the contrary, the high homeless black dude just gets to sit around all day, high, and have something else provide all of his nourishment, while the middle class white family struggles and works there ass off. This is not some fluke of the system, it's because the homeless black dude is on the side of good karma.

At some point I will challenge federal tax laws claiming first amendment rights that it infringes on my right to practice my spiritual and religious beliefs of not killing people, by forcing me to fund the killing of people through military. But I couldn't afford that right now. So my only option is to suck as much energy out of the demon that is the US government as I can.

Think about this, if we ended the military budget, we could probably get every citizen a food stamp card 4 times over. Cursing socialist services for raising taxes is stupid. Curse what is TRULY unnecessary. Murder.

so move to switzerland about it. a national military is a good idea for a variety of reasons, not one of which should really need to be explained to be evident.
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so move to switzerland about it. a national military is a good idea for a variety of reasons, not one of which should really need to be explained to be evident.

I gotta do my part where I am.

And military will have no use in the new world.
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some retarded shit

And HERE WE GO!!!!
The thread has now turned fucking retarded.

Eat less acid and work more hours if your able.
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