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What you're describing Tom could be applied to the population as a whole. It's a little disheartening to see it show up in college, sure, but it's just a reflection of humanity as a whole.
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Thanks for coming out.

Hey! I R Smrt!
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What you're describing Tom could be applied to the population as a whole. It's a little disheartening to see it show up in college, sure, but it's just a reflection of humanity as a whole.

Oh for sure, no question! The reason I find it annoying in university though is that those folks really should be better, but they're often not.
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Hey! I R Smrt!

Lol, no that was directed at him, as in your answer was pretty much the perfect rebuttal.
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What a moron.

I love the damage control, too. Anyone can plainly see he wasn't speaking metaphorically.
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Well this doesn't explain his statement, but it explains the slowness, etc.:

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Earlier today, we (along with a lot of other Web sites) poked fun at Rep. Hank Johnson's assertion that, were the U.S. to relocate naval personnel to Guam, "my fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize." Over at The Gaggle, we called it the quote of the day, noting that "Guam is 212 square miles with a population of 175,877 (2008 estimate)."

Now we've come across information that makes the statement seem a lot less funny. In December, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ran an exclusive in which Johnson admitted to having hepatitis C. Reporter Bob Keefe writes:

The Lithonia Democrat's already-thin frame has shed 30 pounds in the past year. His speech is slower than ever, and he regularly gets lost in thought in the middle of a discussion. He is easily fatigued and often impatient and irritable ... To keep the disease in remission, Johnson is going through an experimental treatment that he said has been the worst part so far.

"I am weaker than I ever have been," Johnson, 55, said in his Capitol Hill office.

Hepatitis C is a serious illness—one that's affecting more and more baby boomers like Johnson. In January, NEWSWEEK's Sarah Kliff documented the rising cases of hep C in those over 50, a rate that has the Institute of Medicine concerned. She writes that two thirds of those with hepatitis C are adults in their 50s and 60s, thanks in part to the virus's ability to lie dormant for decades before attacking. When it does become active, the consequences can be devastating:

Of those infected with the virus, about 60–70 percent will develop chronic liver disease. For about 40 percent, a months-long regimen of shots and pills will eradicate the virus. But many will continue to live with the disease as a chronic condition; 1 to 5 percent will die of the consequences of liver disease. Some expect to see these conditions become significantly more prevalent as boomers' cases move from virus to disease. One study, a Milliman Report published in May 2009, predicted that the number of patients with advanced liver disease will be four times greater than it is today by 2029. Cases of cirrhosis, scarring of the liver, will also quadruple.

That article also notes that many boomers who may have experimented with IV drug use in the '70s might now be seeing the signs of hep C, but it's important to note that the virus is spread through any blood contact: an accidental needle stick in a hospital setting, blood transfusions or organ donations before screening became standard in 1992, or (like Pamela Anderson, who also suffers from hep C) during a visit to an unhygienic tattoo parlor.

The disease itself can lead to fatigue and depression, and its treatments can affect mood and appetite. When we called Johnson's office today for comment, his spokesperson didn't offer up hep C as an excuse for his comment about Guam, and we're in no position to do so either. But we do think it's worth noting.

Update: This article originally stated that The Atlanta Journal-Constitution article ran this Monday. In fact, it ran Monday, Dec. 7, 2009. Johnson's office informed me today that the congressman is finished with his treatments and—according to a March 12 press release—feels good, though he remains committed to raising awareness and funds for hep C prevention and treatment. We regret the error. You may now resume mocking his Guam comments.
All the more reason he should no longer be in office though....that's hardly a stress less job.
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I love the last lines

Like I said...it doesn't excuse the stupidity, just the stuttering, etc.
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Very fair. I think we see more eye to eye than we initially realized . Like I said, I did go a little bit overboard, and my intention wasn't to put everyone down. I'm a university graduate myself. I think I overreacted when I read what I thought was basically saying "he should be smart because he has a degree". In reality, what you said was true, he really should be, but like I said, there are more than enough people with degrees that are less than brilliant.

I'm glad this didn't degenerate into a troll war.

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What are you studying for your post-graduate program?
I'm in Rhetoric and Composition. Basically it's studying the methods of argument and persuasion, then writing those things in a cohesive manner. People do a lot of theoretical/philosophical work in the field, but I'm lucky to work in a university that's very grounded and emphasizes teaching. I work with Freshman students, and I try to acclimate them to what it means to write academically, regardless of their major.
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I'm glad this didn't degenerate into a troll war.

It would if one or both of us was retarded. We don't have that case here.

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I'm in Rhetoric and Composition. Basically it's studying the methods of argument and persuasion, then writing those things in a cohesive manner. People do a lot of theoretical/philosophical work in the field, but I'm lucky to work in a university that's very grounded and emphasizes teaching. I work with Freshman students, and I try to acclimate them to what it means to write academically, regardless of their major.

So you must pull your hair out more than I do when you bear witness to what I was complaining about, no doubt!
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Honestly, I'd like to give the guy the benefit of the doubt here, since a bunch of politicians are rather smart people with law degrees, but I really can't see what else he was talking about. I can't even see him talking about the island sociologically capsizing into riots because he never brought up the culture or demographics of the people.

Just because you have a degree doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.
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Like I said...it doesn't excuse the stupidity, just the stuttering, etc.
His speech is slower than ever, and he regularly gets lost in thought in the middle of a discussion
I am pretty sure the same mechanic that causes his mind to drift like that would cause some fucked up thought patterns that equate to dumb ass ideas. Ever smoke weed? :P

none of this justifies the guy being in the position he is but yea.. I think his Hep C explains everything you saw in the video.
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His speech is slower than ever, and he regularly gets lost in thought in the middle of a discussion
I am pretty sure the same mechanic that causes his mind to drift like that would cause some fucked up thought patterns that equate to dumb ass ideas. Ever smoke weed? :P

none of this justifies the guy being in the position he is but yea.. I think his Hep C explains everything you saw in the video.

you kind of missed this


"Update: This article originally stated that The Atlanta Journal-Constitution article ran this Monday. In fact, it ran Monday, Dec. 7, 2009. Johnson's office informed me today that the congressman is finished with his treatments and—according to a March 12 press release—feels good, though he remains committed to raising awareness and funds for hep C prevention and treatment. We regret the error. You may now resume mocking his Guam comments. "
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you kind of missed this


"Update: This article originally stated that The Atlanta Journal-Constitution article ran this Monday. In fact, it ran Monday, Dec. 7, 2009. Johnson's office informed me today that the congressman is finished with his treatments and—according to a March 12 press release—feels good, though he remains committed to raising awareness and funds for hep C prevention and treatment. We regret the error. You may now resume mocking his Guam comments. "
hrm, I don't know if that means he is free of the mental effects already or not... "feeling good" isn't too specific
either way, the guy has some clear mental issues in the way of his job.. time to resign.
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