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Just skimmed through, but I hope all of you that "walk around without id" have good dental records.
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Just skimmed through, but I hope all of you that "walk around without id" have good dental records.

You did a bad job skimming if that's all you got out of the thread.
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We are nation of immigrants, we should welcome all just as we always have. They are the secret to our greatness after all.

we've been a "nation of" a lot of things, some long gone antiquated notions and some concepts that still exist. would you identify yourself as liberal? the appeal to tradition is a fallacy that is the antithesis of liberalism.
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we've been a "nation of" a lot of things, some long gone antiquated notions and some concepts that still exist. would you identify yourself as liberal? the appeal to tradition is a fallacy that is the antithesis of liberalism.

I am a southern liberal
I like guns and things that really did make the country better, while still wanting to help everyone be the best they can.
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we've been a "nation of" a lot of things, some long gone antiquated notions and some concepts that still exist. would you identify yourself as liberal? the appeal to tradition is a fallacy that is the antithesis of liberalism.
Die hard lefties like to hand pick things "our country was founded on" while forgetting things like the tobacco trade which started our economy, slavery which made us an agricultural power....and the whole religious freedom thing.
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I am a southern liberal
I like guns and things that really did make the country better, while still wanting to help everyone be the best they can.

you cant help people be the best they can by forcing everyone to live by lowest common denominator standards of criminal border jumpers. Funny how things work.
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you cant help people be the best they can by forcing everyone to live by lowest common denominator standards of criminal border jumpers. Funny how things work.

Funny how your logic jumps.
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Funny how your logic jumps.

his logic is downright Vulcan compared to your fucked up and twisted thought processes........
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Funny how your logic jumps.

my logic in this case is as convoluted as a dead mans EKG



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his logic is downright Vulcan compared to your fucked up and twisted thought processes........
Some people think Logic == Place Ideology Here. And cant understand why people laugh.
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Where is all the outrage over illegal immigration being a crime at the federal level? Now that it's a crime at the state level there's a problem?
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Where is all the outrage over illegal immigration being a crime at the federal level? Now that it's a crime at the state level there's a problem?

the pro illegals crowd weren't outraged at the feds because the feds do only drop in the bucket enforcement. Now that a state that has finally had enough with the criminal illegals and the negative effect they have the state has enacted a law that has some balls to it. So they are freaked out by that......
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Where is all the outrage over illegal immigration being a crime at the federal level? Now that it's a crime at the state level there's a problem?

A) The federal government is supposed to control immigration policy

B) If illegal immigration wasn't a crime it wouldn't be illegal so you kind of just made a tautological argument there.

C) Lots of people are upset about the federal government's terrible immigration policy, and have been for years. The Arizona law just set people off because of the severe potential for abuse.
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C) Lots of people are upset about the federal government's terrible immigration policy, and have been for years. The Arizona law just set people off because of the severe potential for abuse.

Making something easier to enforce does increase the potential for abuse. I wonder how many people criticizing the law have actually read it.
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Making something easier to enforce does increase the potential for abuse. I wonder how many people criticizing the law have actually read it.

Read the thread. I have read it. I voiced my issue with it. Assuming the modifications to the law have been added, I have no issue with it.
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All the conservative people who jack off to "State's Rights" should be upset about this. The federal government has explicit power over immigration, not the states. You can't have it both ways.

TSRH.

zero chance this law makes it past the circuits.
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