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If the mass majority of people in this country are of hispanic "race" (and you're fucking ting yourself if you say NO THEY AIN'TS ) then racial profiling is a reasonable tool to use to enforce the law. I'm right in the middle of WE ILLEGALS! land, and it's preety easy to quess the illegal 99 times out of a 100. You could do the illegals version of foxworthy's "you might be a redneck if...." routine.

If you see a 30yr or older hispanic riding a bike in work clothes......he might be an illegal

If you see a hispanic hang out with other hispanics at the home depot parking lot......he might be an illegal....and the percentages go up from 99.99345% to 100% when there's 40 fucking bikes chained to the trees around the hispanics

If you get wrecked by a hispanic and they "hit &run" ......they might be an illegal

If you hear a hispanic speak spanish but cannot speak english......he might be an illegal

If you see hispanics in medical facilities that need to be spoken to in spanish by bi-lingual medical staff......he might be an illegal

If a hispanic is a member of MS-13, Mexican mafia, or the norentanous or surenous gangs......he might be an illegal

If he marches in the street waving a mexican flag on the 4th of july......he might be an illegal

and a thousand other "indicators".

You sound just like all the people from the 1800s who complained about Polish, Lithuanian, German, etc, immigrants. And they were all legal.

There's also a significant illegal Asian population but nobody makes a big fuss about them. Wonder why.
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Please point out where we have a huge problem of ILLEGAL canadians. And are you suggesting that candians who are actually BUYING houses, as in they have money to do so, and SPENDING IT HERE, are at the same level of MASSIVE amounts of unskilled and poor ILLEGALS who suck up jobs from citizens and tax dollars from their use of government services, while send BILLIONS of their money OUT OF THE COUNTRY and so OUT OF OUR ECONOMY. You're actually comparing the two. really, are you?

Most every study indicates that illegals are a small positive or net neutral on our economy.
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Most every study indicates that illegals are a small positive or net neutral on our economy.

Dr. Chavez did a study which found that immigrants and illegals promoted safer neighborhoods (less homicide) over a 20 year period in Chicago.

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edit: http://hsx.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/13/3/261
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If that bothers you then take it up with the PRO illegals people. They brought the issue to this level.

None of what you mentioned counts illegal Canadians, Asians, or Europeans. Nor does it count people working under expired visas. So.....congrats on labeling yourself a bigot. (not going to go as far as to call you a racist as I don't know yet)

My parents don't speak fluent English because they don't speak fluent English. They've lived in the US for 30 years now. They still can't pronounce some things. They still struggle with some words.

And what do pro-illegals have to do with US citizens being harrassed?
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None of what you mentioned counts illegal Canadians, Asians, or Europeans. Nor does it count people working under expired visas. So.....congrats on labeling yourself a bigot. (not going to go as far as to call you a racist as I don't know yet)

My parents don't speak fluent English because they don't speak fluent English. They've lived in the US for 30 years now. They still can't pronounce some things. They still struggle with some words.

And what do pro-illegals have to do with US citizens being harrassed?
the proportions are way way off. There 1000s of times more illegal hispanics than other nationalities.

If you have a jar entirely full of pennies, with 3 nickels and a dime in it, its still a jar full of pennies.
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the proportions are way way off. There 1000s of times more illegal hispanics than other nationalities.

If you have a jar entirely full of pennies, with 3 nickels and a dime in it, its still a jar full of pennies.

Can you prove this? A lot of illegal Europeans and Canadians fly under the radar because they look like your standard American.
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Can you prove this? A lot of illegal Europeans and Canadians fly under the radar because they look like your standard American.
like 40% of america is hispanic now. Therefore, illegal mexicans look like 40% of the legitimate population too.
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There is no reason in 30 years your parents couldn't be completely fluent in English...

That is the problem right there, if you don't want unwanted attention than take means to distance yourself from those who bring it. Learn English...
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like 40% of america is hispanic now. Therefore, illegal mexicans look like 40% of the legitimate population too.

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Total population of Hispanics in Arizona - 1,785,737
Total population of Canadians in Arizona - 5,130,632


Does this mean there are 5 times the amount of illegal Canadians then too?
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haha, the entire population of arizona is only 6 million people (citation)

6,595,778 - Jul 2009
Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Population Division
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Are you saying that the only people that live in arizona, are hispanics and canadians?


edit: no wait. theres actually more canadians and hispanics than people who actually live in the state
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There is no reason in 30 years your parents couldn't be completely fluent in English...

That is the problem right there, if you don't want unwanted attention than take means to distance yourself from those who bring it. Learn English...

Learning English won't keep them from unwanted attention. They still look Hispanic. And English is a lot harder to learn than you think.
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Most every study indicates that illegals are a small positive or net neutral on our economy.

lieberal studies, no doubt
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haha, the entire population of arizona is only 6 million people (citation)

6,595,778 - Jul 2009
Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Population Division
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Are you saying that the only people that live in arizona, are hispanics and canadians?


edit: no wait. theres actually more canadians and hispanics than people who actually live in the state


Scratch that, I misread the graph.

It read as follows:
Canadian foreign-born population, for the United States
Arizona 5,130,632

While that was total population of the state, I misread that as total population of Canadian foreign born residing in Arizona

Either way you do realize that using census information for population only counts for legal citizens right?
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thats reasonable, it does look like thats what theyre saying
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So you have about 20% of the population of Arizona, who have to carry ID with them at all times even if they are US citizens.
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