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now shit i hate about my mac


The price
The hardware isn't up to date with normal PC's
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the exclusion of ports for ascetics, i really like having an HDMI port, SATA, 4 USB, SDs lot on my windows laptop for example
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iPhone faggots can officially now fuck off with how awesome iPhone is, and that it will never be surpassed...because it just did... And it's not going to stop anytime soon.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20004585-266.html
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iPhone faggots can officially now fuck off with how awesome iPhone is, and that it will never be surpassed...because it just did... And it's not going to stop anytime soon.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20004585-266.html

I bet that's more a referendum on AT&T than the iPhone. Wait and see how the numbers pan out once it comes out on Verizon.
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1) Setting up any form of settings on the mac is just simpler and more intuititve. The new Control Panel of windows 7 is a bad attempt at what the mac does right.
2) High level functions are easy to get to, The windows DOS prompt/console have really been dimenished in value. I still have terminal on my mac, and can use that whenever i need to use a unix/linux shell
3) Its pretty, but damnit its not distractingly pretty, the new Aero interface doesn't seem to add any function with its visuals, I like the look, but after a while the appeal is lost and i see no reason why my windows should be "glass like"
4) Installing programs and more importantly seeing what programs are running is easy/intuitive/easily managed. I hate the fact that i install a program on windows, and it tries to install 3 other programs with it (an example of the worst case). Then i have the system tray, i close a program, and fuck its still open, or even worse the program wants to have a permenant presence on my desktop by always having a system tray icon run in the background. Fuck that, Then there is the whole registry of windows, what a horrrible horrible thing. .app and the library folder and just the whole FILE SYSTEM of the mac is 10 times better than windows.
As a side note, did you know you can access any .app (the equivilant of .exe) using terminal and extract objects from within the program without any debuggers or other software, pretty cool if you want to extract a gift and manipulate it in photoshop etc etc
5) The OS doesn't treat me like a criminal (no genuine checks), or constantly harass me for updates (the update feature is rock solid), or easily gives access to administrative functions to programs. Windows 7 has made great strides in this aspect, but fuck me is it half as good as Mac/Unix.


In OSX, all i have to do is change the language setting in the OS, and then restart the program. So i can have programs running in ENGLISH and Japanese working together without any problems. Non unicode programs on windows are a bane of my existance (and more common than people would think). If i want to, i can change the language of the entire OS just as easily in OSX, all i have to do is the above switch and restart the computer, on windows i have to either have a Japanese version of Windows 7 or an American English version of windows 7 on my computer to get both languages throughout the entire operating system. There is a big benefit to the fact that there is just ONE VERSION OF OSX, i can buy an upgrade disk from a macbook store in Japan/China/USA/Germany and they all have the same fuckin program on them. Can't say that about windows.

You make some extremely valid points, and points that windows users really can't harp about, haha.

1) The control panel sucks. I don't know how else to say that. I get confused every time I get in there about where things are located and I do this for a living.
2) I don't really understand? Terminal is used very differently, so I'm not too sure what you're saying.
3) I love the way the start menu/taskbar interface looks and acts now. It functions well. You have multiple windows open, it'll show you multiple screenshots. It gives menus from within the program in the taskbar itself, etc. etc.
4) I agree. A ton. The multiple apps installing though is a total third party issue. I've had Apple software do the same. Removing a program and it not actually getting completely removed has been a flaw of Windows since the beginning. Having to use a registry cleaner to make sure to get gunk out is ridiculous and should be automatically done.
5) Genuine checks happen once? You can automatically update or turn off updates? It sounds like you might just need to configure it to work to your liking?

And WTF, I absolutely agree with the multiple version deal. Having to pay a premium just so I can login to a domain or have access to the inner workings of my OS is pretty ridiculous. I like the one version idea.

I like this. A mac guy explaining his reasoning and logic in a calm, respectful way. You sir, are an anomaly.
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iPhone faggots can officially now fuck off with how awesome iPhone is, and that it will never be surpassed...because it just did... And it's not going to stop anytime soon.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20004585-266.html

I own an Android phone, and it's not all magic and rainbows over here.

HTC/T-Mobile discontinued software updates after 12 months for their first-generation phone, the T-Mobile G1. It hasn't received an update in 6 months, and there are no confirmed plans for future upgrades. I gave up on waiting a while ago. It's done, and I am kind of pissed that I entered a 2-year contract for a device that only stays current for 1.

That said, I rooted my G1, have been running CM 4.x for months, and recently installed the 2.1-based 5.0.7 test3. It runs fine, with the exception of a couple issues with BT and battery life. There's no reason HTC can't get it on the G1, they're just being twats.

Problem is, there are more and more apps that now require Android 2.1 to function. Even the official Twitter app requires it now. When you've got people running 1.5, 1.6, 2.0, and 2.1, you've got a smaller market. Smaller market means fewer devs, fewer devs means fewer apps. Not much of a platform if you don't have apps. You think Grandma is going to root and install a custom ROM? No, but users like Grandma are just as important if Android Market wants to grow.

In contrast, EVERY iPhone runs 3.1.3. Devs can count on that. Doesn't matter how many Android phones are sold; it sure seems like iPhone is going to have more apps for a long time if Google doesn't grow some balls and force hardware makers to support their devices.

Also, say what you want about Apple's stupid app rejection policies, but Skype got pulled from Android Market so it could become exclusive to Verizon customers. Google has pulled tethering apps at the request of carriers. Android Market isn't quite as "free" and "open" as people make it out to be.

Just sayin'.
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I bet that's more a referendum on AT&T than the iPhone. Wait and see how the numbers pan out once it comes out on Verizon.

which is happening in 2012 ... maybe (there are rumors that AT&T and apple inked a six month exclusivity extension recently).
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Also, say what you want about Apple's stupid app rejection policies, but Skype got pulled from Android Market so it could become exclusive to Verizon customers. Google has pulled tethering apps at the request of carriers. Android Market isn't quite as "free" and "open" as people make it out to be.

Just sayin'.

difference is android makes it easy to install non-marketplace apps, apple makes it impossible (for the average user).
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I bet that's more a referendum on AT&T than the iPhone. Wait and see how the numbers pan out once it comes out on Verizon.

A good chunk of iPhone users jailbreak their phones to escape that, though, as they should.
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which is happening in 2012 ... maybe (there are rumors that AT&T and apple inked a six month exclusivity extension recently).

If Apple extends that deal, than their entire executive staff should be fired. The iPhone is so popular that they'll make far more money allowing users to pick their carrier than to force them to use AT&T via an exclusivity deal.
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A good chunk of iPhone users jailbreak their phones to escape that, though, as they should.

I don't think many iphone users jailbreak to leave AT&T ... losing 3g isn't worth it.
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I don't think many iphone users jailbreak to leave AT&T ... losing 3g isn't worth it.

Beside the fact that the vast majority of cell phone users aren't literate enough to even know what jailbreaking is, much less how to do it.
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You make some extremely valid points, and points that windows users really can't harp about, haha.

1) The control panel sucks. I don't know how else to say that. I get confused every time I get in there about where things are located and I do this for a living.
2) I don't really understand? Terminal is used very differently, so I'm not too sure what you're saying.
3) I love the way the start menu/taskbar interface looks and acts now. It functions well. You have multiple windows open, it'll show you multiple screenshots. It gives menus from within the program in the taskbar itself, etc. etc.
4) I agree. A ton. The multiple apps installing though is a total third party issue. I've had Apple software do the same. Removing a program and it not actually getting completely removed has been a flaw of Windows since the beginning. Having to use a registry cleaner to make sure to get gunk out is ridiculous and should be automatically done.
5) Genuine checks happen once? You can automatically update or turn off updates? It sounds like you might just need to configure it to work to your liking?

And WTF, I absolutely agree with the multiple version deal. Having to pay a premium just so I can login to a domain or have access to the inner workings of my OS is pretty ridiculous. I like the one version idea.

2) my comments in number two were about the dwindleing usability of DOS or the command prompt. I grew up in DOS, so there were a lot of things i prefered to do in dos. Terminal is used very differently, but man do i love having a plain text way to do shit sometimes, especially when it comes down to file management. Windows for example has always been really bad about user rights. OSX is perfect with it, granted its just unix. But UNIX got it right in the 70s ,and if it ain't broke...

3) I agree windows 7 has made great steps in the right direction with that. I like the windows preview feature a lot actually. But lets face it, the 7 taskbar is a copy of the mac dock. The OSX has been doing windows management better than windows up until 7. But i still hate the start menu. Its really clunky and full of shit. If it was a search bar, frequently used programs, and then a program drop down menu i would like it a lot better. But right now it has too many things on it.

4) yea i know apple does that shit with quicktime and itunes, its stupid and gay and i hate it also.

5) I like to manually update, but i still find it more of a hassel, ive had the genuine update check once i think. But i get shit about windows firewall and all that shit coming up constantly, It also doesn't help that i have a Sony Vaio, and Sony has raped the OS to hell with their Sony Vaio Care, Sony Access, Sony Bank (yea, its japan) Felica port, etc. I'm sure a lot of my beefs with windows 7 are a lot to do with Sony ass raping my computer

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I like this. A mac guy explaining his reasoning and logic in a calm, respectful way. You sir, are an anomaly.
i know, i actually hate most apple fanboys as much as the normal sane person. Its a fuckin company, and its a product. thats it.






oh i think i should point out that mac osx actually has two versions, normal and server. my gripe was more about internationalization, but yea the idea of windows 7 basic, home, home basic, home basic plus, home basic plus ass, home premium shit needs to stop
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The problem people have with Apple isn't there products; it's faggots like you. Fin

My problem has always been the price gouging.
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I don't think many iphone users jailbreak to leave AT&T ... losing 3g isn't worth it.

It's impossible to get a 3G provider from a jailbroken iPhone? That's news to me, although admittedly I don't have one and don't live in the United States, so even if I did I wouldn't be on AT&T.

Last I checked, they say about 8.5% if iPhone and iTouch users jailbreak, so you're correct, but I did say a good chunk. 8.5% is a good chunk, but still a strong minority to be fair.
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