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If you're not anti capitalist then you're embracing a system that is not only the cause of many of the problems liberals claim to want to fix but that is also ultimately doomed. Sure does sound crazy huh?

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My understanding of this issue is that they had the votes to pass it but the D leadership in the house decided they wanted a supermajority vote for it instead.

I am pretty sure it could still pass with a simple majority, which is all that is required.

Pass the law with the required votes, don't play political games with it.
And Weiner is a bit misleading in his tirade. There are significant differences in the progress of a law when it's passed with a simple versus super majority; so it isn't as black-and-white as he implies.

They wanted to pass it with a supermajority so they could avoid letting the Republicans add amendments to it, most of which were going to be straight political ploys to make the Democrats look bad.
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They wanted to pass it with a supermajority so they could avoid letting the Republicans add amendments to it, most of which were going to be straight political ploys to make the Democrats look bad.


Sounds speculative (though of course plausible, as both parties love to tack on their own shit)

If an unsavory amendment gets attached then the bill should be voted down; irrelevant of party.
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Sounds speculative (though of course plausible, as both parties love to tack on their own shit)

If an unsavory amendment gets attached then the bill should be voted down; irrelevant of party.

Heard it on one of the interview shows from one of the Democrats involved, so I imagine it's true.

The amendments are a silly thing, the Republicans can add an amendment that poisons the bill and then make the Democrats vote against health care for 9/11 heroes (which was of course the point). Democrats would rather lose the vote and cast blame on the Republicans. Crappy thing all around, and we're stupid enough to fall for it.
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So has there been any coverage of the democrat plant at a Rand Paul event that dressed up like a nut and carried a racist sign and got caught out?

Or will we find out he is a republican pretending to be a democrat plant Oh wait those hillbillies are not smart enough to think of that amirite?
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My understanding of this issue is that they had the votes to pass it but the D leadership in the house decided they wanted a supermajority vote for it instead.

I am pretty sure it could still pass with a simple majority, which is all that is required.

Pass the law with the required votes, don't play political games with it.
And Weiner is a bit misleading in his tirade. There are significant differences in the progress of a law when it's passed with a simple versus super majority; so it isn't as black-and-white as he implies.

there should have been no reason it shouldn't have passed by a super majority. It was fully funded and worthwhile.
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Sounds speculative (though of course plausible, as both parties love to tack on their own shit)

If an unsavory amendment gets attached then the bill should be voted down; irrelevant of party.

dude, the republicans tried to add amendments to this bill like the proceeds of the health care could not go to illegal aliens.

WTF? how many illegal aliens do you think were running into the towers that day?

And if they were, they deserve not only health care but citizenship.

The republicans are playing fucking retarded games with anything they can to try and make obama / the democrats look bad at ANY FUCKING COST.

How anyone can defend these assholes at this point is way beyond me.
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So has there been any coverage of the democrat plant at a Rand Paul event that dressed up like a nut and carried a racist sign and got caught out?

Or will we find out he is a republican pretending to be a democrat plant Oh wait those hillbillies are not smart enough to think of that amirite?

why is that news? there are hundreds of racists at rand paul events. rand paul and his crackpot tinfoil hat wearing father are racists, after all.
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why is that news? there are hundreds of racists at rand paul events. rand paul and his crackpot tinfoil hat wearing father are racists, after all.

you really Were dropped on your head often as a child.

The "racist rand paul supporter" works for the democrat opposing him. Get it yet?
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and you know about this because you were there?

CAUSE THERE WAS NO COVERAGE IT CAN'T HAVE BEEN IN THE PAPER?!
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and you know about this because you were there?

CAUSE THERE WAS NO COVERAGE IT CAN'T HAVE BEEN IN THE PAPER?!

what a fucknut you are.
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http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/...munity-center/

mmmmmm, manufactured outrage. it's fantastic.
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I'll just leave this entertaining news story here too:

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/08/16/...be-20k-poorer/

Sorry Birthers, don't want to sound like a dick or nothin', but, ah... it says on your chart that you're fucked up. Ah, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded.

But don't worry, scrote. There are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick-ass lives.
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I'll just leave this entertaining news story here too:

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/08/16/...be-20k-poorer/

Sorry Birthers, don't want to sound like a dick or nothin', but, ah... it says on your chart that you're fucked up. Ah, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded.

But don't worry, scrote. There are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick-ass lives.
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