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Article of the day: The left's hypocrisy

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/bl...eenwald/384200

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Why are those Americans who are most distrustful of the U.S. government, and so eager to undermine it, the same ones who are most desperate to give it control over their own lives? Michael Moore has made a big P.R. show of his pledge to pay Julian Assange’s bail. “WikiLeaks, God bless them, will save lives as a result of their actions,” he writes, and puts the U.S. government on notice: “You simply can’t be trusted.” Moore offers advice to those of us who see something wrong with Assange. “[A]ll I ask is that you not be naive about how the government works when it decides to go after its prey.” Right. Instead, you should be naÔve about how government works when it decides to take control of your health care, regulate your business, and spend your earnings. Moore, you may have forgotten, calls for the U.S. government to provide “free, universal health care for life” for “every resident of the United States” and demands that “pharmaceutical companies … be strictly regulated like a public utility.” That’s the old anti–Big Brother spirit.

When men like Michael Moore are not calling for the government to be undermined and defied, they’re petitioning for it to chauffeur them to the movies, cook their meals, and tuck them into bed. One news cycle finds HBO’s Bill Maher telling America not to allow the government to inject “a disease into your arm” in the form of a vaccine and that “I don’t trust the government, especially with my health.” The next, he’s calling for “Medicare for all” and lamenting the absence of a fully government-run health-care system that would operate like the U.S. postal service.
Words cannot describe how delicious the irony and hypocrisy we have with these people. However, to be fair, the right has done the same thing too, specifically the authoritarian right who wants free business and personal rights but at the same time support the patriot act. I'm just waiting for the day when people realize that it's not whether you're left or right, but whether you're a libertarian or authoritarian.
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Yeah, Michael Moore and Bill Maher are well known hypocrites.

I wonder if you asked Bill Maher whether government health-care should provide extensive, repeated care for people who make the dangerous choice to chain-smoke....
Because I'm sure he would want extensive, repeated care for people who make the dangerous choice not to be vaccinated.
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I wonder if you asked Bill Maher whether government health-care should provide extensive, repeated care for people who make the dangerous choice to chain-smoke....
Because I'm sure he would want extensive, repeated care for people who make the dangerous choice not to be vaccinated.

Well, yes, of course it should.
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Yeah, Michael Moore and Bill Maher are well known hypocrites.

I wonder if you asked Bill Maher whether government health-care should provide extensive, repeated care for people who make the dangerous choice to chain-smoke....
Because I'm sure he would want extensive, repeated care for people who make the dangerous choice not to be vaccinated.

naw, I think a better one for Bill Maher would be if there was some annual religious practice that included stabbing someone in stomach should be covered or if people should be covered if they purposefully abuse themselves in order to get medical care in order to drain the system of funds.. He'd probably respond with some sort of, "yes it should be covered, however we'll just strip them of their inalienable rights to practice religion since it's a farce anyway".. Pretty much a, You can have lots of "free" stuff, but you have to live by my rules and do things the way I tell you whether you like it or not".. a dictator if you will..
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Government mandated vaccines != the ability to receive healthcare from the government.

I'm pretty sure you're able to come to that conclusion by yourself.
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I'm all in favor of government mandated vaccines, but I'm curious how a libertarian would be able to support them.
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Government mandated vaccines != the ability to receive healthcare from the government.

I'm pretty sure you're able to come to that conclusion by yourself.

The core of this article is about a lauded distrust for governments yet also urging people to trust them completely with regards to major parts of your life and the economy.
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I'm all in favor of government mandated vaccines, but I'm curious how a libertarian would be able to support them.

You realize there are different types of libertarians right?

I funny this funny as shit though as the right-wing has this obsession with Bill Maher and his "view" of libertarianism like its wrong or something.
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bill maher is not a libertarian by any definition of the word
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The left and right both have plenty of hypocrisy...the difference is the left truly believes they are justified no matter what.
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The left and right both have plenty of hypocrisy...the difference is the left truly believes they are justified no matter what.

And the right doesn't?

That right there is hypocrisy.
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And the right doesn't?

That right there is hypocrisy.

it's like he doesn't even see it
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And the right doesn't?

That right there is hypocrisy.

I remember the torture apologism, and the cries that anyone who didn't support torture is anti-American.

There's no monopoly on rampant hypocrisy and blind partisan fervor in the US.
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You realize there are different types of libertarians right?

I funny this funny as shit though as the right-wing has this obsession with Bill Maher and his "view" of libertarianism like its wrong or something.

Wasn't referring to Maher. I was just wondering if one of the numerous libertarians here could explain that issue to me.
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Yes, terrible hypocrisy that someone should believe that the government should provide non-profit health care for its citizens and at the same time believe the government shouldn't lie to its citizens about foreign policy.

And the only vaccine that maher doesn't trust is the flu vaccine which I'm pretty sure is not made or mandated by the government.

Also, I'm pretty sure no one in all of history has ever wished for a health care system run like the post office. and lol at the people who still buy the line about single payer being a way for the government to control you. feebs.
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