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because while this is a stupid thing to do that we shouldn't be involved with in the first place, it's a legal action due to our NATO and UN treaties. the previous ones were not.
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because while this is a stupid thing to do that we shouldn't be involved with in the first place, it's a legal action due to our NATO and UN treaties. the previous ones were not.

bzzzt wrong answer. Please accept this lovely parting gift.
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Where are all the people screaming that Obama is a war monger and started a war without congress consent and is a war criminal? I guess Libya does not count.

umm, both the hard left and right are complaining about libya.


and we haven't declared war since WW2...
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umm, both the hard left and right are complaining about libya.


and we haven't declared war since WW2...

I am talking about the frothing at the mouth gen may crowd.

You know, the George Soros leg humping moveon.org "centrists"

The ones always screaming how Right Wing conspirator drool cup wearing trailer trash gen may is if you dont agree with them.
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bzzzt wrong answer. Please accept this lovely parting gift.

uh no, it's actually the right answer
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uh no, it's actually the right answer

fucking NATO, how does it work?
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Hmm cease fire agreement

Hmmm 12 years of violation of a cease fire agreement with constant threats/attacks on US craft.


Like I said. Bzzzzt Wrong answer cupcake. No lovely parting gift this time.
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Hmm cease fire agreement

Hmmm 12 years of violation of a cease fire agreement with constant threats/attacks on US craft.


Like I said. Bzzzzt Wrong answer cupcake. No lovely parting gift this time.

Hmmm using false intelligence to sell a war to the US and to the world.

Bush didn't sell invading Iraq as due to violations of the ceasefire, he sold it as an imminent threat because of WMDs. That was , and we know it now. Whatever you think about the validity of the war, Bush and co sold us a raft of shit in justifying it.

There's nothing equivalent with Obama's decision to deploy troops to Libya.
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And Obama is selling the attacks in Libya as protecting civilians.


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themorlock conveniently "forgets" that this cease fire and no fly zone gibberish also included bombing of iraqi infrastructure in between the gulf wars. In late 1998 iraq said it will not honor the no-fly zone anymore, as it was pretty convenient for the allied forces to bomb them for whatever reason they liked. Basically, themorlock is complaining that the iraq regime did not honor a contract that has been unilaterally dictated, in which they are not allowed to supervise or patrol in their airspace, as the allies do not want to be disturbed while they're bombing. This is also cause for war in the world of themorlock, the self appointed free thinker hippie anarchist..


themorlock also conveniently "forgets" that airspace violations can be pretty menial and are an everyday occurrance. But I guess themorlock being the law-honouring person he is, wouldn't mind any country in the world shooting down for example, US planes the instant they violate airspace.


yes he seriously is that stupid
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Hmm cease fire agreement

Hmmm 12 years of violation of a cease fire agreement with constant threats/attacks on US craft.


Like I said. Bzzzzt Wrong answer cupcake. No lovely parting gift this time.

which still didn't make it legal. despite the violations, without UN approval or a congressional declaration of war - which the resolution was not - it doesn't hold up to legal scrutiny. that's the difference; this one, while still being a really stupid idea as well as something we can't afford, actually holds up
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ill take the penis mightier for 400 alex
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which still didn't make it legal. despite the violations, without UN approval or a congressional declaration of war - which the resolution was not - it doesn't hold up to legal scrutiny. that's the difference; this one, while still being a really stupid idea as well as something we can't afford, actually holds up

Nice how you have solved all the legal ramifications of anything a US president might do with one simple post. You can has attorney general job now.
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No way, Blood for Oil! Oil is a finite resource, the blood of the innocent and evil alike is not! Blood is a renewable resource so I have no issue trading a renewable resource for a non renewable resource..
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Heres a little for ya..guess who said this back in 2007 while they were campaigning for a certain important public office:

"The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

Ahem...reality bites.
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