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And the dems are AGAISNT family values? How did the Reps manage to convince people of this, I don't fully understand. I guess they equated the hatred for gays to mean family values. Another highlight of the IQ gap honestly.



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my point about the debate of the extreme of the right and the left is that they both legislate morality. people go on and on about the christfaggery and the supposed extremism the republicans exhibit when it comes to moralistic issues, but always ignore the ideological extremism (often much more insidious and much less apparent) present within the american left...ideological extremism that they seem to be a whole lot more successful in legislating, compared to the extremist moral ideology the right pushes...example of a mandatory "diversity" program for incoming freshmen at a university that receives a lot of support from the state of delaware:

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and of course there is always the lovely "tunnel of oppression", at university of illonois, which is wholly state funded:

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imagine the shitstorm of cosmic proportions if there was a similar program on campus, but in the opposite direction...

when is the last time you took a class in european literature or history that hasn't been tainted through some ridiculous lense of critical theory, where every major historical figure is not only tentatively gay, but is also an evil white oppressor? extremist christians can yammer on and on in big protests and every once in a while they will produce a mcveigh (who wasn't exactly republican either, seeing as how mcveigh thought the republicans were controlled by ZOG, but i digress...) but as a whole extremist leftists are in much stronger position to leverage their ideological extremism within america (mostly within college campuses). this pattern as a whole holds true for most state funded universities in america, and is only broken by private and costly catholic universities run by the various dominican or jesuit orders...and even that's changing.

to reiterate, i'll take my chances with forced prayer in school and bible study over shit like this any time, despite being an atheist, if only because it doesn't make demonize me for being a white male.

how's that for voting in my interests, hardon?

the christian right in its extreme forms is obviously no friend of personal liberty...but don't even make pretend the american left is. unless of course you're gay, black, transgender, and not of voting age all at the same time! and let's get serious here, who has a greater chance of institution their own extremist vision across the united states (hint: it isn't jethro and his congregation of 20 living inna woods of kentucky who are scared of helicopters and fuck their sisters all day long, nor is it the bachmanns, palins, and bushes of the world who will say anything to secure their vote...)
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I'm on a college campus. No radical leftism here. sry

I can ask my other friends about their universities but I'm sure the answer will be the same. Sorry you feel oppressed :-*
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Yeah never noticed any radical leftism at the three schools I either attended or taught at. Move out of California?
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I'm in a state that always votes blue, and no tunnel of oppression type of

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I'm on a college campus. No radical leftism here. sry

I can ask my other friends about their universities but I'm sure the answer will be the same. Sorry you feel oppressed :-*

it's not so much that this stuff is pervasive or universal, but it's the fact that it exists and tax dollar payers fund it, which speaks volumes of the position in which extreme leftists are, a position extremist right wingers would cream their collective pants to be in...

hardon yammered on and on about the extremist elements within the american right wing while making pretend that extremist elements within the left that are comparable in their zealotry don't exist at all, i simply posted that shit to prove him wrong.

i don't personally feel oppressed. well maybe if only a little bit, given how much money the NSF just loves to throw toward women and minorities when it comes to engineering grants...
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it's not so much that this stuff is pervasive or universal, but it's the fact that it exists and tax dollar payers fund it, which speaks volumes of the position in which extreme leftists are, a position extremist right wingers would cream their collective pants to be in...

While extreme leftists try to make you feel guilty for being a white male (which really only works if you start feeling guilty), the extreme right wants to tell you what you can/can't do with your own body, who you can/can't marry, they want to ban porn, they want to punish you for smoking weed, punish you for masturbating, teach creationism in schools and require prayer in schools, send young men on pointless religious crusades against muslim countries, and they don't care if they destroy the planet through pollution of the environment, because they are all good christians and jeebus will make everything alright. Oh, the planet's water is undrinkable and the air is polluted with toxins? Just keep praying to sky daddy and he will make everything better again!

The fact that you would prefer elected leaders to have such an extreme ideology scares the shit out of me.

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hardon yammered on and on about the extremist elements within the american right wing while making pretend that extremist elements within the left that are comparable in their zealotry don't exist at all, i simply posted that shit to prove him wrong.
but you didn't prove anyone wrong, you only made yourself look retarded

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i don't personally feel oppressed. well maybe if only a little bit, given how much money the NSF just loves to throw toward women and minorities when it comes to engineering grants...


How about you post some figures on that...

Both of my advisers get NSF grants and use it to pay me and pay for my equipment. One of them is a white male, the other is a female of indian descent, although because she was born on US soil and has lived her entire life here, she may as well be white. Hell, if you had a conversation with her on the phone you wouldn't have a clue that her skin was brown. Most of the people in the physics department (85% of whom are white men) get some amount of grant money from the NSF to fund their research.
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While extreme leftists try to make you feel guilty for being a white male (which really only works if you start feeling guilty), the extreme right wants to tell you what you can/can't do with your own body, who you can/can't marry, they want to ban porn, they want to punish you for smoking weed, punish you for masturbating, teach creationism in schools and require prayer in schools, send young men on pointless religious crusades against muslim countries, and they don't care if they destroy the planet through pollution of the environment, because they are all good christians and jeebus will make everything alright. Oh, the planet's water is undrinkable and the air is polluted with toxins? Just keep praying to sky daddy and he will make everything better again!

meh if you really want to go down this road i can list just as many ridiculous things the american left adheres to that i don't think you would really like. it's a matter of tallying pluses and minuses really.

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The fact that you would prefer elected leaders to have such an extreme ideology scares the shit out of me.
that's not what i said. i said given the option between either extreme, i'd take my chances with the far right wing route. i'd much rather live amongst the pastoral and luddite amish then live in some weird post racial society where you guessed it...i'm personally responsible for all of society's ills.

but i just hate the democrats over all. they're so weak and ineffectual. they're not even real leftists, and are just as pro corporate, pro quasi us imperialism, anti drug legalization, anti isolationist, anti-any real constructive reform as the republicans are. the only real difference is that the republicans pander to impoverished and highly religious morons from the south, whereas the democrats pander to food stamps using drug addled inner city morons who have never worked a day in their life. i'd readily support a violent proletarian revolution over voting democrat.

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but you didn't prove anyone wrong, you only made yourself look retarded
how's that? independent of my views on anything i've done more than enough to show that ideological extremism is not something unique to the american right, something hardon initially claimed with a high degree of pompousness. whether or not i favor one over the other it's undeniable the left is up to just as much out there wackjob shit as the far right is.
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How about you post some figures on that...

Both of my advisers get NSF grants and use it to pay me and pay for my equipment. One of them is a white male, the other is a female of indian descent, although because she was born on US soil and has lived her entire life here, she may as well be white. Hell, if you had a conversation with her on the phone you wouldn't have a clue that her skin was brown. Most of the people in the physics department (85% of whom are white men) get some amount of grant money from the NSF to fund their research.
do i really need to post statistics to show that most universities favor minorities with all kinds of ridiculous "equalizing" programs? and then there is the pandering to women in the technical subjects and all...since you're using anecdotes i'll give you one of my own...i've known at least two women who weren't doing any particularly interesting or ground breaking undergraduate research in CompEng, and were not really stellar technical students over all, but both got accepted to do graduate work at MIT solely because they were women. i've had a professor tell me personally that if they were (white) males they would have never stood a chance of entering.

if you want to argue that women and minorities comprise such a small demographic in technical subjects and careers that whatever amount of favoritism they receive is insignificant, that's fine too, all i'm saying is i'm never going to visit a black medical doctor and neither should you...
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