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I'm on a college campus. No radical leftism here. sry

I can ask my other friends about their universities but I'm sure the answer will be the same. Sorry you feel oppressed :-*

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Yeah never noticed any radical leftism at the three schools I either attended or taught at. Move out of California?

so say the liberals

protip: POV is subjective. If you're liberal, then chances a liberal school/staff is going to feel "just right, no extremism here!"

That's like a white supremacist saying "KKK university was a paragon of moderate values"

if you want to get an idea of what he's talking about, look over FIRE's website.

http://thefire.org/
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and the primary point that i'm trying to get across regarding that is not so much that such an organization an exists, i'm pro liberty, i'm fine with people adhering to its viewpoints, it's just that leftists are in a position to impose those ideologies on students in state funded campuses using an ideological infrastructure that extremist right wingers do not enjoy. ramble all you want about how much you hate bachman and her brand of christian identity extremism, fine, but you can't overlook the extremism on the other side that is arguably in a much better position to propagate its views.
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I wonder if you people getting your panties all twisted by the retard right got their panties all twisted when the retard left pulled the same "moran" on Booooosh......

There's a fundamental difference between the normal criticism every President takes and the muslim conspiracy theory which is obviously rooted in racism.
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and his going to the church of a violent rhetoric racist black preacher for 15 years has no reflection on him either.

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Yeah, there have been plenty of presidents on both sides of the coin who have done some good and some bad shit and have been religious, mainly because even if they're not actually religious, atheists are mistrusted more than any other minority (except apparently tea partiers, now.)
In the realm of politics, however, being religious and bringing that religiosity to work with you benefits nobody except those that fit your narrow common worldview. If you are faced with the dilemma of work and religion clashing, you need to pick one or the other. If you can do your job and leave religion at home, good. That's how it should be. But when people want to use their religion to enact law and change public policy, then fuck right off.
If you don't want to have to marry the gays, don't be a clerk. If you don't want to have to give out the morning after pill or contraceptives, don't be a pharmacist/pharmacy tech. If you don't want to work within a secular society, then stay the fuck out of government.

Except you know common concepts like treat everyone like you would live to be treated, protect those weaker than you, forgive, dont judge, etc.

You're picking out all the traits that people have latched onto that are bad about religion, and ignoring all the good ones. Its basically the same as saying all muslims are terrorists, because a few are, which is a statement im sure you'd greatly object to.
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and the primary point that i'm trying to get across regarding that is not so much that such an organization an exists, i'm pro liberty, i'm fine with people adhering to its viewpoints, it's just that leftists are in a position to impose those ideologies on students in state funded campuses using an ideological infrastructure that extremist right wingers do not enjoy. ramble all you want about how much you hate bachman and her brand of christian identity extremism, fine, but you can't overlook the extremism on the other side that is arguably in a much better position to propagate its views.
There is no "extreme" left in America outside of a tiny inconsequential minority. 90% + of liberals are pro capitalist and pro US. I'm not sure what you're talking about unless multiculturalism is somehow considered extremism.
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meh if you really want to go down this road i can list just as many ridiculous things the american left adheres to that i don't think you would really like. it's a matter of tallying pluses and minuses really.

Look, the far left is retarded, but the far right is even MORE retarded. Not only that, but the amount people that actually subscribe to some sort of far left pro-gay anti-white paradise make up a very small portion of the population, while the portion of the population believing in a christian theocracy are much higher; last i heard the percentage of americans that believe the bible is the unbending literal word of god was over 30%.

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how's that? independent of my views on anything i've done more than enough to show that ideological extremism is not something unique to the american right, something hardon initially claimed with a high degree of pompousness. whether or not i favor one over the other it's undeniable the left is up to just as much out there wackjob shit as the far right is.
The retarded stuff on the left is confined to the extremes, whereas on the right, the all their whackjob sky daddy is part of the mainstream. when bachmann claims the recent hurricanes and earthquake on the east coast happened because god is mad at us, and perry kicks off his campaign with a giant prayer rally, that just goes to show how extreme the right wing mainstream is.

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do i really need to post statistics to show that most universities favor minorities with all kinds of ridiculous "equalizing" programs?
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and then there is the pandering to women in the technical subjects and all...
So are you one of these folks that think that only men should study technical subjects?

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since you're using anecdotes i'll give you one of my own...i've known at least two women who weren't doing any particularly interesting or ground breaking undergraduate research in CompEng, and were not really stellar technical students over all, but both got accepted to do graduate work at MIT solely because they were women.
Were you sitting on the admissions board that made the final decision on their applications? Were you literally sitting there in the room with the admissions board listening to them review the applications? I don't think you were, so I don't think you have any clue as to why they got into MIT. For all you know they gave blowjobs to the chair of the department they were applying to, and THAT's the reason they got in!

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i've had a professor tell me personally that if they were (white) males they would have never stood a chance of entering.
Again, just his perception, he knows jack shit more than you do.

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if you want to argue that women and minorities comprise such a small demographic in technical subjects and careers that whatever amount of favoritism they receive is insignificant, that's fine too, all i'm saying is i'm never going to visit a black medical doctor and neither should you...
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mooslim or not, will anyone really miss him a lot when he is no longer president next winter?

If anyone of the republican nutbags gets elected, I have a feeling a whole lot of people are gonna miss him.
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mooslim or not, will anyone really miss him a lot when he is no longer president next winter?

So who's going to replace him? I don't think he deserves to win again, but in the lack of any serious competition thus far I think he will.

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example of a mandatory "diversity" program for incoming freshmen at a university that receives a lot of support from the state of delaware:
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when is the last time you took a class in european literature or history that hasn't been tainted through some ridiculous lense of critical theory, where every major historical figure is not only tentatively gay, but is also an evil white oppressor?

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to reiterate, i'll take my chances with forced prayer in school and bible study over shit like this any time, despite being an atheist, if only because it doesn't make demonize me for being a white male.

how's that for voting in my interests, hardon?

Well I can't relate because I didn't feel opressed in any of my courses. Not even a little. As far as your interests it doesn't seem like a good reason to back a group of people who - first of all - never actually bring up any of what you just said. Maybe some of the republican VOTERS do, but none of the Reps in office will touch any of this with a long stick.
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meh if you really want to go down this road i can list just as many ridiculous things the american left adheres to that i don't think you would really like.


Okay list some... Right to choose? Tax rates than can actually support this country and it's infrastructure maintanance?


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i'd much rather live amongst the pastoral and luddite amish then live in some weird post racial society where you guessed it...i'm personally responsible for all of society's ills.
Fuck that "weird post racial" ? I'm not sure what this means. Yes inevitably people will fuck each other and mix genetics - this is a function of easier methods of travel really, not the work of Democrats.

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but i just hate the democrats over all. they're so weak and ineffectual.
This is closer to the truth and representative of most right wingers - a personal difference based on character and whatever was instilled into you while growing up; that's not a healthy way to make decisions. Yes the dems are not as stubborn as the reps, and lose many battles this way. It doesn't mean they are wrong. That just means they need your support to aim this country in a proper direction.


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i'd readily support a violent proletarian revolution over voting democrat.
Probably in your mind. In reality you would not exactly pick up pitchforks and torches - or do shit really... Right wingers LOVE to appear all "git 'er dun" (the time for talk is over! omgomg) while in reality it's the same as the people who vote for them. The washing machine will remain on the porch; the busted "classics" in the back yard will never get restored. It's all talk... Hot air... aggressive mouth flapping with no real direction yet a lot of emotion.



Clue: if your life sucks, fix it by setting aside emotions and looking at actual numbers and policy. It isn't as exciting as hating the niqqers who get free tuition but even having them all killed Auschwitz style won't better your own existance.
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Except you know common concepts like treat everyone like you would live to be treated, protect those weaker than you, forgive, dont judge, etc.

You're picking out all the traits that people have latched onto that are bad about religion, and ignoring all the good ones. Its basically the same as saying all muslims are terrorists, because a few are, which is a statement im sure you'd greatly object to.

Just like "family values" of hating gays, Reps have claimed "christian values" in general as all their own... The odd thing is every republican voter publicly denounces anything close to what Jesus would do

Do not help the hungry.. do not help the helpless... that's called socialism... etc
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Except you know common concepts like treat everyone like you would live to be treated, protect those weaker than you, forgive, dont judge, etc.

You're picking out all the traits that people have latched onto that are bad about religion, and ignoring all the good ones. Its basically the same as saying all muslims are terrorists, because a few are, which is a statement im sure you'd greatly object to.

Those traits exist outside of religion. Just because a religion happens to promote those morals does not mean you need to be religious to have those morals. You should be good to people because it's the right thing to do, not because you don't want to piss off skydaddy.
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