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I've been looking everywhere lately for solid reliable answers to the simple question: does it actually do anything?

An acquaintance of mine pulled his sick dog off medications (renal failure) and started giving him acupuncture therapy. I couldn't imagine in a million fucking years that it would be effective in the least bit. Needless to say I blew my top.

Every study I can find ends the same: inconclusive... it appears to not do anything at all. But this dude and his friends swear by it. Then I found that my sister claims acupuncture helped her pain more than vicodin. What the fuck?

Am I being punked by some hippies?
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I've been looking everywhere lately for solid reliable answers to the simple question: does it actually do anything?

An acquaintance of mine pulled his sick dog off medications (renal failure) and started giving him acupuncture therapy. I couldn't imagine in a million fucking years that it would be effective in the least bit. Needless to say I blew my top.

Every study I can find ends the same: inconclusive... it appears to not do anything at all. But this dude and his friends swear by it. Then I found that my sister claims acupuncture helped her pain more than vicodin. What the fuck?

Am I being punked by some hippies?

*shrug*

Conventional medicine/doctors have been brought up to heal and treat people in a completely different mindset than holistic/eastern methods...Even if it's little more than they'll say that acupuncture is quackery strictly because they need to maintain a patient base. Same could be said about chiropractics as well.

They can't prove it, so they don't follow/praise it.
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personally i'd wonder how any prick administered by someone without a medical license can really be of value. the prick doing this job probably won't do anything other than take your money and give you a placebo effect.

...but i'm not educated in either medicine or scamming people, so i don't know.
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Perhaps it does work on specific things, who cares? It really is very unconclusive, and that alone should be enough for any rational being to make a decision on treating a pet.


Your friend is an absolute moron. It's one thing to fuck with feng shui over the weekend when some fucking douche is pushing needles in you with a scent candle up his rectum, but it's a whole new ball game to actually kill something else for your dumbfuckery. Sounds like the kind of guy who drinks avocado juice with herbs while he should be getting chemo. Which is good, actually.
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yeah well you they've been doing it for thousands of years because it doesn't work?
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It "works" for pain because there's an enormous mental component to pain. Same with some other conditions, to a lesser degree in general.

I can't imagine it would work at all for anything for a dog.
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yeah well you they've been doing it for thousands of years because it doesn't work?


oh joe pits, never change.
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had a friend that did it and i trust him not to be a dumbass, old dude ex firefighter. so i believe it works. but on a dog, fuck that there's no thousands of years experience honing the skills on dogs there's no way you could perfect it on a creature that cant communicate with you. so yea dude is a fucktard hippy shit that buys into the dipshit holistic culture that south park so accurately portrayed.
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My X does healing, that blew my top as well.

All i can say is, that there's more between heaven and earth.

  she can make her hands glow on infrared cameras, and cured my headache once  
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here is a solid reliable answer - no


And TCM is a big joke in general just like zodiac signs. If you want to make yourself shit non stop you don't really need tree bark tea or tiger penis, just go get some exlax.
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My X does healing, that blew my top as well.

All i can say is, that there's more between heaven and earth.

  she can make her hands glow on infrared cameras, and cured my headache once  

I can make my balls glow on infrared camera.
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yeah well you they've been doing it for thousands of years because it doesn't work?

People used to sacrifice other people so the sun would rise... also for a very long time.
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People used to sacrifice other people so the sun would rise... also for a very long time.


used to.....
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nerves do not have a one to one connection with the brain. In effect they work similarly to a computers bus. which may give acupuncture the ability cause the brain to pay more attention or less attention to different areas of the body. Since these signals can overlap. If you dig into various areas of your body gently with a sharp fingernail you can map the overlap when you get an echo of that pressure in a different area.

So certain things that say might respond to increased blood flow could be helped. But its not likely to cure major medical problems.

But like IcW@teR said I doubt that anyone has spent enough centuries mapping a dogs system with trial and error acupuncture like they did with people. And even with people the map is not going to be anywhere near 100% correlation between one person and another.

as far as joe goes. Well people have been praying to Jesus for 2 thousand years and think thats why they scored the touchdown.
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