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bill maher is a piece of shit

all he does is have loser comedians come on their show and give political opinions like they mean anything

then he will have a smart person on his show and him and that lady that sounds like she is holding in a load of hot cum in her mouth will talk loud over the guy as hes making a good point

You obviously never watch the show and are basing your opinions off of his old show, Politically Incorrect, which hasn't been on TV in about a decade. He gets much better guests now.

Last weeks guests on Real Time were:

Former Governor Jennifer Granholm (D)
Journalist Matt Lewis
Former Governor Buddy Roemer (R)
Journalist Bill Moyers
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Senator Bernie Sanders (I)

about the only thing you are right about is that he does tend to talk over guests in the middle of a point and that does bug me too.
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You obviously never watch the show and are basing your opinions off of his old show, Politically Incorrect, which hasn't been on TV in about a decade. He gets much better guests now.

Last weeks guests on Real Time were:

Former Governor Jennifer Granholm (D)
Journalist Matt Lewis
Former Governor Buddy Roemer (R)
Journalist Bill Moyers
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Senator Bernie Sanders (I)

about the only thing you are right about is that he does tend to talk over guests in the middle of a point and that does bug me too.

the guy is an asshole who can never be wrong and obviously the show is rehearsed so the point is to De-emaculate them
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the guy is an asshole who can never be wrong and obviously the show is rehearsed so the point is to De-emaculate them

rehearsed? It's a live talk show. I'm sure they get the topics in advance but I doubt they rehearse.
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rehearsed? It's a live talk show. I'm sure they get the topics in advance but I doubt they rehearse.

if they don't rehearse they have more of a likelihood of fucking shit up or breaking in camera

i could be wrong, but its hard to believe they would do that
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you're always wrong. people like that don't rehearse live talk shows, there's no point
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and good luck getting the guests to sit around for hours rehearsing shit. all you would get is nobodies with plenty of time on their hands.
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Capital gains loophole is the biggest crock of shit ever. The argument was that since you're at risk of losing some or all of your investment, the tax rate should mitigate some of those losses to "encourage" investment. There's no proof that this is true. Just like the trickle down economics the previous administration fucked us over with in order to cut taxes for millionaires who couldn't make the capital gains loophole work for them.

why? you have to hold the investment longer than 1 year to get the low rate. and it applies for everyone, not just rich people. the argument is they want to encourage long-term investment, so you get a tax break for holding it long term. those day traders still have to pay their 40%

what about all those retirees who have their retirement fund tied up in stock (and how about stocks that pay dividends)? you want to hurt them by doubling the taxation on the only income they now have?
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why? you have to hold the investment longer than 1 year to get the low rate. and it applies for everyone, not just rich people. the argument is they want to encourage long-term investment, so you get a tax break for holding it long term. those day traders still have to pay their 40%

what about all those retirees who have their retirement fund tied up in stock (and how about stocks that pay dividends)? you want to hurt them by doubling the taxation on the only income they now have?

Solution: Progressive taxation on capital gains.
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Solution: Progressive taxation on capital gains.

and whats the cut off? a retiree couple who has worked a decent job their entire life and saved diligently would (should) have atleast $1mil in investments. they have to live on that for 20-30 years. you want to take 40% of that from them?


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im 25 right now. if i plan on retiring when im 65, i have 40 years left. if i invest $5000 a year just for the next 5 years it would be worth roughly $950,000 in 40 years. for the next 10 years: $1.5mil. the next 15 years: $1.8mil.

its definitely doable for your average blue-collar worker to do that
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and whats the cut off? a retiree couple who has worked a decent job their entire life and saved diligently would (should) have well have $1mil in investments. they have to live on that for 20-30 years. you want to take 40% of that from them?

sure. they can't make 600,000 last 30 years?
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sure. they can't make 600,000 last 30 years?

20 grand a year? you bust your ass at a plant 60 hours a week for 40 years to live on 20 grand a year?
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20 grand a year? you bust your ass at a plant 60 hours a week for 40 years to live on 20 grand a year?

i can live pretty well on 12k, why can't you on 20k?
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and whats the cut off? a retiree couple who has worked a decent job their entire life and saved diligently would (should) have atleast $1mil in investments. they have to live on that for 20-30 years. you want to take 40% of that from them?


edit: to show how not-so-farfetched $1mil is:
im 25 right now. if i plan on retiring when im 65, i have 40 years left. if i invest $5000 a year just for the next 5 years it would be worth roughly $950,000 in 40 years. for the next 10 years: $1.5mil. the next 15 years: $1.8mil.

its definitely doable for your average blue-collar worker to do that

They'd be fairly stupid to pull the entire million out all at once. If they were pulling for 20 years, that'd be $50k a year. Anybody that is pulling a million a year out in gains is rich as balls and I'm not real worried about them.

And who said anything about 40%? Make it zero for amounts normal people will ever see. First 100k a year for free or whatever the fuck. Ramp it up to 30+% for people like Romney making twenty fucking million a year in gains and dividends.
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and whats the cut off? a retiree couple who has worked a decent job their entire life and saved diligently would (should) have atleast $1mil in investments. they have to live on that for 20-30 years. you want to take 40% of that from them?


edit: to show how not-so-farfetched $1mil is:
im 25 right now. if i plan on retiring when im 65, i have 40 years left. if i invest $5000 a year just for the next 5 years it would be worth roughly $950,000 in 40 years. for the next 10 years: $1.5mil. the next 15 years: $1.8mil.

its definitely doable for your average blue-collar worker to do that

they wouldn't pull all of their investments out in one year so it wouldn't be a problem. They'd only have to pay 35% if they took it all out at once.

1mil over 20 years is only 50k per year. They'd likely end up paying close to the same rate on close to the same amount of income as they had prior to retirement.
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