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My dad actually said this the other night:

"Thanks to Obama there won't be any more rich people like me in the future."

I literally just started laughing out loud. Then as he was walking away looking pissed I said:

"You seriously think if we go back to the clinton tax rates there will never be any more rich people?"

he says yes and I started laughing even harder than before. then right as he walks out the door, through my laughter I said:

"yeah, cause no one made any money while clinton was in office. hahaha, you cannot be cereal." [NOTE: My dad made a shitload of money while Clinton was in office.]

He tossed me an angry dad look as he went through the door. the one that says I'm pissed but I realize I'm losing this argument so I'm gonna leave now.
why do you hate rich people
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So who should I vote for? Magic Underwear guy or I Have The Power guy?

You should definitely vote for the washington outsider who used to be speaker of the house who used his outsider connections to sell influence in washington for the past decade as a not-lobbyist-historian.

I want to watch his giant ego pop and blow chunks of newt all over the repubs faces when he actually has to debate that communist kenyan manchurian candidate.
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why do you hate rich people

liberal guilt.
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liberal guilt.

you libruls should understand that if spending is reduced to 0 there's no need for taxes, EVER

except for the military, and that is covered by the magical money fairy
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you libruls should understand that if spending is reduced to 0 there's no need for taxes, EVER

except for the military, and that is covered by the magical money fairy



Just cutting the federal deficit to zero would result in an immediate loss of nearly 10% of GDP...


ECONOMY FIXED!
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You should definitely vote for the washington outsider who used to be speaker of the house who used his outsider connections to sell influence in washington for the past decade as a not-lobbyist-historian.

I want to watch his giant ego pop and blow chunks of newt all over the repubs faces when he actually has to debate that communist kenyan manchurian candidate.

I almost choked on my coffee when The Donald called obama that.

So having the Grinch for president would piss you off the most?
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The donald stole that from michael savage (and so did I).

I actually think I would dislike romney more. I just can't stand him. every time he talks all I see is a slick mannequin that I'm almost certain is being operated from inside by tiny aliens or something. he's going to trip and fall one day and his face plate will fall off and there will be a little green dude inside driving him.

Newt is talking about fucking permanent moon bases and making the moon the 51st state. At least he will be entertaining.
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Not only are you dodging my question, you're spouting nonsense about even this highly unlikely scenario. No one should withdraw all their savings at once and put it into a taxable account, that's retarded. And yes you know absolutely nothing about tax brackets, The highest rate for a single taxpayer without any deductions is around 19%.

Are you really this dense? You think it's ok to tax the super rich at a lower rate than the middle class just in case that middle class person might be lucky enough to have a couple million saved up and have a *slightly* lower tax for a couple of years after they retire? You know what would help this middle class family in your scenario more? The super rich paying the fair share of their taxes and relieving the tax burden on everyone else, and not running up the national debt, and maybe investing in some of that public infrastructure and workforce that made those super rich people rich in the first place.
i started typing up a reply but decided to say fuck it because you're too stupid to even understand what the hell is going on

and the highest rate is 35%, doofus. thats before state, social security, medicare, etc
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i started typing up a reply but decided to say fuck it because you're too stupid to even understand what the hell is going on

and the highest rate is 35%, doofus. thats before state, social security, medicare, etc

That's just precious Maybe you couldn't type up a response because you're an idiot and have zero reading comprehension skills. The rate I mentioned was for the unrealistic example you pulled out of your ass earlier, because I actually read and responded to what you wrote.
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I think that capital gains is stupid. It's like saying that working for a salary carries no risk when in actuality you could get fired at any time in most states as an at-will employee and be more fucked than the guy who "risked" 0.1% of his money.

Now, before you go crazy I'm not saying that I want him to pay higher taxes. I want to pay the same taxes he does. 15% without all of the (social security, etc). If you disagree with that idea then you're very close to admitting that capital gains is a sham.

It's hard to get to the point where you can live off investments when you are losing 25% - 50% of your income to the federal, state, and social security taxes. Forget it if you are brave enough to be self-employed.

The truth is that rich, influential people got the law written this way with the guise that investments shouldn't be taxed twice so they should at least get a lower rate. Nonsense. When I get paid and I buy something the seller pays tax on that income. I can't write off most of the stuff I buy because I'm a regular person. My business can write off anything but I can't. If we want to make sure that money isn't taxed twice then why don't we let people write off all of their expenses. Hong Kong does it and I think it works just fine for them and the tremendously rich people that live/play there.
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In a slightly related note: I fuckin' hope Santorum beats Romney. Wishful thinking considering Ron Paul will never win
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wut? santorum is an even worse religious whack job than romney. that's saying a lot given romney is a mormon.
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