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Because they signed the NPT. They can withdraw if they want. Seriously, that's the main legal argument here.
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I'm pretty sure our intelligence agencies aren't just taking his word for it.
People don't seem to understand the nature of those NIE reports. Iran doesn't have a weapon now and isn't actively building one because they lack enough HEU. However, they are enriching uranium past 20%, which is far beyond the 3%-4% needed for a reactor. Once they achieve around 85%, building a weapon is pretty simple and fast. In fact, getting to 20% enrichment is by far the hardest part of all of this. That's why people are worried.
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The same intelligence agencies that were pretty certain that Iraq had WMD's?

In any case, if anyone can't see for themselves why it would be a very bad idea for Iran to have nukes...I can't help you there.

that "data" was cherry picked and then played up. The administration misrepresented the consensus of the intelligence agencies.
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Because they signed the NPT. They can withdraw if they want. Seriously, that's the main legal argument here.

^this shit right here.

If Iran wants a nuke, they can withdraw from the damn treaty. If they don't, then they ought to be subject to the penalties of violation.


Although, I'm of the school of thought that Iran wants to be able to produce a bomb, but not actually build one. It doesn't take very long to assemble once you've done the refining and such, but you're swimming in deep waters once you assemble and especially if you do a test.


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No dumbo it's like prosecuting people by using "precogs" like in that stupid Tom Cruise movie.... for doing the same thing as other people are doing who you are not prosecuting
You know "conspiracy to commit murder" is a crime, yes? Similarly, there are things in the NPT other than "no nukes lolol". Stuff like controlling uranium enrichment and being transparent on your processes. Iran's not holding up their end of the bargain.
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It's a balance of power thing. Israel has nukes to deter another six day war type thing. Iran gets nukes, Israel feels threatened, M.A.D. enacted in the Middle East, psychotic religious extremists reenact The Crusades with nukes, shit gets confusing, Russia launches thinking U.S. attack for some reason, U.S. launches retaliatory strikes, 2012 prophecy comes true.

skynet takes over, i've seen that movie too.
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So what are the arguments for Iran (or any other country) that doesn't already have nukes to create their own arsenal? Will it make the world a safer place and speed up the process of eliminating them completely?
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because we're the only country full of religious morons that should have nukes









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So what are the arguments for Iran (or any other country) that doesn't already have nukes to create their own arsenal? Will it make the world a safer place and speed up the process of eliminating them completely?

I think the argument would be "the costs of stopping them are too high" and that's about it, unless you're a fruitbat like Patriotic Eagle and/or are a big fan of the current Iranian regime.
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I think the argument would be "the costs of stopping them are too high" and that's about it, unless you're a fruitbat like Patriotic Eagle and/or are a big fan of the current Iranian regime.
What puzzles me is there seems to be a lot of people that think even economic sanctions/nuclear inspectors are going to far and we should just leave them to go about their nuke making business in total secrecy..
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Most people have been propagandized into believing Iran as a state is irrational which justifies imperialism against it.
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