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The problem with the tea party is that they live in the reverse world.

They scream about the president raising taxes when he has lowered them. The scream about illegal aliens when the president has deported record numbers and deployed record numbers of agents to the borders. They scream about how he is taking their guns when he has done no such thing. They scream about him "attacking their religion" when all he has done is say what 28 states have already been doing for years and say that religious employers must follow the same rules as all other employers. They bitch and moan about socialism and communism while they collect social security and their health care is covered by medicare. They hate big government unless it's telling gays they can't get married or telling women what they can't do with their bodies. They are "pro life" but once you come out of that womb, fuck you if you want healthcare, welfare, foodstamps, or education. Maybe you can grow up to go off and die in some misguided war somewhere. It is what republican Jesus would have wanted.

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That is fairly bizarre when all put together. I don't believe they actually think about those things a whole lot, just go down a checklist of bitching points. Usually implanted/suggested by Faux News and a number of simpleton "must gripe about something to fill airtime" republican talk shows.
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THIS IS WHAT THE TEA PARTY ACTUALLY BELIEVES.

They are largely ignorant of reality because they only get their news from Fox, sean hannity, michael savage, beck, rush, and world nut daily.
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THIS IS WHAT THE TEA PARTY ACTUALLY BELIEVES.

They are largely ignorant of reality because they only get their news from Fox, sean hannity, michael savage, beck, rush, and world nut daily.

Having supreme hard-ons to go back to America, Red-Scare McCarthy 1950's style....It certainly appears to be the thing THEY MUST HAVE. That era also presented us with an early glimpse of Tricky Dick as well!

Also, it's not (so much, anyway) the illegals coming in that are stealing jobs....It's the KKKorporations shipping everything OUT that's killing job growth at home.
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Tea Party members are ignorant and assholes and are mindless followers of Faux News and repbublicans. in general.
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The Modern Tea Party movement started with Ron Paul supporters.

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The neocons freaked out because they were losing grip and they set out to co-opt the movement.
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THIS IS WHAT THE TEA PARTY ACTUALLY BELIEVES.

They are largely ignorant of reality because they only get their news from Fox, sean hannity, michael savage, beck, rush, and world nut daily.

No, see above.
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The constitution can't possibly enumerate everything just like the Mayan calendar can't possibly go on for ever. Both reflect the best effort of the people at the time. You surely know that the constitution is a "living document" - and as such it can, and should change with the times and needs of it's people. Consider that some of the things you named, if not covered specifically, could be with a simple amendment.

A few examples NOT in the original constitution are things like the speed limit. The DMV. The water department. The fire department. Police. Etc as far as I know, none of those things are specifically listed. We simply have to use common sense.

Also what is your beef - and Michelle Bachman's - against the Department of Education? For fuck's sake we all went to public school barring a few weirdo fags and I for one don't feel cheated or ripped off or anything of the sort. It's such an inane argument it boggles my mind. Planned parenthood, DOE, those things are fine. Occupying multiple countries and having the world's largest war budget and largest national debt is not. Having corporations run our government through lobbies is not.

The tea baggers simply stand for all the wrong non-issues like gays, guns and god and i cannot bring myself to care about any of it, even if i ignore all the larger issues that are holding this country back.

I agree with all of this, but think it should be up to the State's to decide. This is how the government was originally intended to work:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_A...s_Constitution

See here is the problem with all these federal programs and all this moral federal legislation. We are arguing about it. Just the fact we are arguing about it is a problem.

I am firm believer in the concept of evolution not as just a process of genetics, but rather as the overall system by which all progress is achieved. And to have evolution you must have variation, mutation, for something to have the potential to demonstrate it has a better advantage. If healthcare, education, driving laws, everything, are homogenized across every state, you have no variation of systems, and evolution is dead. This is why it should be left up to states entirely. If one state thinks that outlawing abortion, having no medical care and shitty education is the right way to do it. They should be allowed to do it. Let the thing go for 10 years and then compare them to the states that have better programs. Then instead of just ARGUING about how healthcare, education or whatever should be you can now point to actual hard evidence of comparing the different systems in different states. And if one state wants to continue to be retarded, let them be, and fall into a pit so deep they just become national mockery.
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having health care handled on the state level means that states can choose to be the shithole with no regulations where all the health care companies will set up shop. I'm sorry but health care is not just a service, it should be a universal right. everyone needs it, everyone should be party of the system. everyone should get at least the same basic level of coverage.

So let some states be shitholes? Worrying about the people in the state of Oklahoma and Nebraska and Floridia I think is a bit weird. If a state is filled with idiots, then let there way of life become the obvious example of what not to do, and then by natural selection, watch everything change into something better.
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The Tea Party is a socially conservative movement unsuccessfully masquerading as a fiscally conservative movement.
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THIS IS WHAT THE TEA PARTY ACTUALLY BELIEVES.

They are largely ignorant of reality because they only get their news from Fox, sean hannity, michael savage, beck, rush, and world nut daily.

Instead of Joy Behar, John Stewart and George Soros? It's fake but its true!!!
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The Tea Party is a socially conservative movement unsuccessfully masquerading as a fiscally conservative movement.

Yeah, there is a lot of that I believe.
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Instead of Joy Behar, John Stewart and George Soros? It's fake but its true!!!

A. No one watches daytime TV because it sucks. Who gives a shit what some washed up daytime TV hag thinks?
B. John stewart is a comedian.
C. George soros is not on TV.

But I would argue that the political analysis Jon Stewart does is generally of a far higher quality than the vast majority of the popular talking heads on Fox.
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CBS all the News thats fit to fake.

Behar has her own show besides being on the view.
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So let some states be shitholes? Worrying about the people in the state of Oklahoma and Nebraska and Floridia I think is a bit weird. If a state is filled with idiots, then let there way of life become the obvious example of what not to do, and then by natural selection, watch everything change into something better.

The problem is if you let it be handled at the state level and you allow people to shop across state lines then ALL THE COMPANIES will go to the state with the fewest/weakest regulations. That will harm everyone, not just the shithole state.
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