Obama care: Cliffs + inevitability of single payer system

[edplayer]

Originally Posted by Coqui

No but competing against other insurance companies would keep their pricing down (again in theory) of course it could be like the gas companies where they all just jack up the prices regardless

well if its held up by the courts I guess we will all find out soon. My guess is that we won't see premiums drop on average.

[Gibonius]

Originally Posted by edplayer

well if its held up by the courts I guess we will all find out soon. My guess is that we won't see premiums drop on average.

We probably won't. Literally nobody was interested in serious market-based reforms (like killing employer-based insurance) and the Dems took any real teeth out of "socialist" style reforms like single payer immediately. We'll pay a bit more, people with pre-existing conditions won't get as abjectly ruined, and some middle income people will get coverage who couldn't before.

Fixing the runaway cost problem will have to happen down the road, but I don't know when Congress will ever have the balls to touch it after the hellstorm of this last round. I certainly can't imagine any kind of modern Republican Congress doing anything more serious than "repeal and pretend the problem is gone."

[pyramid]

Originally Posted by s0me0nesmind1

I still see it every day. An older man / women (definitely past the age of 25, 30, 40, etc...) that come in to the Kroger / Grocery store, and come up to the counter with 2x 18 packs of Bud Light. And since it's the express lane, they often come out with a carton of ciggs too depending on who they are.

There is absolutely ZERO fucking excuse for coming to a grocery store and walking out with only beer. The only POSSIBLE excuse is if you are in college. Period. If you are doing this, you are a failure at life, and I shouldn't have to support you. I hope you die in a fire because you are a waste to society.

maybe that's all they needed.

[Gibonius]

Originally Posted by pyramid

maybe that's all they needed.

There's zero excuse for drinking beer unless you're a college kid! Somehow this has something to do with health care, because someonesmind had brain surgery!

[Straw Man]

I should also add, that people on foodstamps should be forced to gnash their teeth when entering and exiting stores. They should also make miserable faces.

[s0me0nesmind1]

Originally Posted by Gibonius

There's zero excuse for drinking beer unless you're a college kid! Somehow this has something to do with health care, because someonesmind had brain surgery!

Christ, someone taking that post as if it was a direct response to this? Like I meant the government should decide what to buy? My statement was simply that if you go to a grocery store to buy yourself shitloads of cheap beer and ciggs, you aren't going to get anywhere in life

Ask yourself if you see a businessman in a suit come drop by to grab a 24 pack after work is ever seen

[Colicious]

Originally Posted by s0me0nesmind1

Christ, someone taking that post as if it was a direct response to this? Like I meant the government should decide what to buy? My statement was simply that if you go to a grocery store to buy yourself shitloads of cheap beer and ciggs, you aren't going to get anywhere in life

Ask yourself if you see a businessman in a suit come drop by to grab a 24 pack after work is ever seen

what day?


rich fuckers down here know how to throw a party

[Gibonius]

Originally Posted by s0me0nesmind1

Christ, someone taking that post as if it was a direct response to this? Like I meant the government should decide what to buy? My statement was simply that if you go to a grocery store to buy yourself shitloads of cheap beer and ciggs, you aren't going to get anywhere in life

Ask yourself if you see a businessman in a suit come drop by to grab a 24 pack after work is ever seen

I have friend who make more than I do (talking 100k+) who drink five days a week and kill a case on the weekends. Not the way I'd roll but it works for them.

Who knows wtf point you think you were trying to make other than being randomly judgmental about daily observances.

[Jack's raging erection]

Originally Posted by s0me0nesmind1

I still see it every day. An older man / women (definitely past the age of 25, 30, 40, etc...) that come in to the Kroger / Grocery store, and come up to the counter with 2x 18 packs of Bud Light. And since it's the express lane, they often come out with a carton of ciggs too depending on who they are.

There is absolutely ZERO fucking excuse for coming to a grocery store and walking out with only beer. The only POSSIBLE excuse is if you are in college. Period. If you are doing this, you are a failure at life, and I shouldn't have to support you. I hope you die in a fire because you are a waste to society.

You can live for two weeks on beer. The cigs help you "eat" less beer. Just sayin'.