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I completely agree with taxing those types of foods. We did it to cigs, should be the same here.
Old 04-03-2012, 09:05 PM Abazaba is offline  
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i can't stop being fat because I can't stop eating

all I need to do to stop being fat is stop drinking beer.

I better get used to being fat.
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this is true. the only note: those tests tend to be quite expensive. who should pay for them?



i agree. corn subsidies is one big one. also wheat vs rye (way too little rye flour used in the states compared to wheat).

It's always a question as to who should pay for them, isn't it? On a personal stance, I believe people should be able to pay for things on their own, but this is through the eyes of a middle-class earner. Expensive tests for lower income people, especially those without insurance would be out of reach - do we say, "tough shit, you should have been born luckier, smarter, or found a way to make more money."? It seems sad that there are a lot of conservative Christians who feel that exact way. Capitalism is okay as a system, but it seems like a lot of people equate Capitalism to being cut-throat and looking out for #1, fuck your neighbors, etc.

Well, I went off on a tangent.

Back to your other post about corn - I think that's a huge issue and I also think that's the reason why red meat is so unhealthy. I've been eating only grass-fed "organic" beef for the last few months and I feel pretty phenomenal. It's not scientific by any means, but what potential problems could beef, pork, etc consumption be causing us due to them being fed GMO corn, soy and other products that have been modified or treated with chemicals?
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A lot of people are fat for medical reasons/genetics, not just because they are gluttonous slobs.

Also, a lot of people are not morbidly obese despite what they eat because of genetics.

If you stop giving a fat person food and making them exercise they will lose weight.

I can an obese person starve to death? Lets take for example some 500lb morbidly obese person, if you stopped feeding them, would there body eventually just consume all of their fat until they are skin and bones and then die? Or would they die of starvation as a big fat blob?
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you ever seen a bearded 6-year old? no? then you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

vast majority of people claiming they can't stop being fat are obviously fucking lying, owk is right about that. but you can bet your fucking ass that serious starting-at-birth thyroid problems can cause simultaneous muscle dystrophy and obesity. no matter what you eat.

this does not of course cancel out the fact that most people who are fat are fat because they made themselves that way. but not all. endocrine system is a bitch like that.

yea yea thyroid problems, whatever

not everyone who has thyroid problems cause weight problems
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i can't stop being fat because I can't stop eating

you can stop eating when you lose all your money to taxes and can't afford any food!

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yea yea thyroid problems, whatever

some strong argument.

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not everyone who has thyroid problems cause weight problems

what does this sentence mean? english, motherfucker.
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If you stop giving a fat person food and making them exercise they will lose weight.

I can an obese person starve to death? Lets take for example some 500lb morbidly obese person, if you stopped feeding them, would there body eventually just consume all of their fat until they are skin and bones and then die? Or would they die of starvation as a big fat blob?

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some strong argument.



what does this sentence mean? english, motherfucker.


not everyone who has a thyroid problem has weight problems

or

fucked up thyroids dont always cause weight problems
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yea yea thyroid problems, whatever

not everyone who has thyroid problems cause weight problems

yeah, because some people have hyperthyroidism and some people have hypothyroidism...
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I need to drink less while working. That was a rant.
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not everyone who has a thyroid problem has weight problems

or

fucked up thyroids dont always cause weight problems

both of these statements are completely true. they in no way invalidate the fact that certain very specific thyroid problems (and, more generally, endocrine system problems) cause obesity and other issues (again, one example - bearded 6 year old kid i saw. who was my height, and i was 12 at the time).

by the way, interpreting the statement "there do exist serious medical cases that lead to obesity that are out of the patient's control" as "noone who is fat should do anything about it" or "all fat people are fat because of underlying serious medical condition" or however else you interpreted what i was saying is incorrect interpretation. noone disagrees with your assessment that MOST of the time people are looking for an excuse, and not actually working on themselves. MOST of the time. but not all.
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I need to drink less while working. That was a rant.

i once said this sentence verbatim while being the operator on console (at the reactor facility i worked at). turned a couple heads .
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both of these statements are completely true. they in no way invalidate the fact that certain very specific thyroid problems (and, more generally, endocrine system problems) cause obesity and other issues (again, one example - bearded 6 year old kid i saw. who was my height, and i was 12 at the time).

by the way, interpreting the statement "there do exist serious medical cases that lead to obesity that are out of the patient's control" as "noone who is fat should do anything about it" or "all fat people are fat because of underlying serious medical condition" or however else you interpreted what i was saying is incorrect interpretation. noone disagrees with your assessment that MOST of the time people are looking for an excuse, and not actually working on themselves. MOST of the time. but not all.

i agree, i think
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