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still, life has been better when we had a republican president as far as ive lived.

You were born after Clinton I guess?

Or was that your heavy meth phase?
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do you think vader had this guy executed, or was he too busy with the rebel alliance to care?
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Yes i feel superior to some of the posters on here, it's true. Not all of them of course. Some inspire me to be better. You're in the middle somewhere.

But seriously the democrats are way less evil, that's a scientific fact.




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do you think vader had this guy executed, or was he too busy with the rebel alliance to care?

Hmm probably depends how many warnings he had?
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Yea those Oakland guys are a rowdy bunch. I'm not against having more hookers, and younger can't hurt either so not going to pick a side on this one.
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Yeah, it was purely an election year political move. On the surface it sounds good:
Had to have arrived here under the age of 16
currently attending or graduated school
served in the military
been in the country for 5 years
no criminal record

The problem is that "undocumented" means that it will be hard to determine exactly which age they entered the country...and 15 isn't exactly too young to have made the jump on their own. (not brought in by parents). Also this sends a message to prospective illegals still in their own country that at least their kids will have a chance if they go ahead and risk the border jump..

At the basic level I support this plan, but still think it's not a good idea until the borders are more secured....and it's not even close right now.

The borders are more secure now than at any other time in history. Net illegal immigration is at zero. More people have been deported under Obama than under Bush.

When they attend school, there is documentation of it. And this is not a path to citizenship yet. He didn't pass the full act, just parts of it saying certain people don't need to be deported and after meeting certain requirements they can apply for a work permit.

Also, the "Dream Act" is not new or something Obama came up with. It was created over a decade ago by that arch-ultra-liberal Orin Hatch from Utah. It actually passed both the house and the senate last year with majority votes but was blocked by the republicans with a filibuster in the senate which required it to get 60 votes to pass instead of the 54 it did get.

http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/just-facts/dream-act

The provisions of the bill do not make it a "get across the border and you are home free" amnesty as some republicans and the hystrical right media are fond of framing it. There are very specific requirements and the "path to citizenship" is pretty long.

IMHO it makes sense. Why deport people we just helped subsidize military training or an education for?
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funny, part of the investigation into the attempted voter purges in florida this year found that out of the 3k people they were trying to purge from just the miami/dade county voter rolls, 3 were non-citizens and 4 were dead people.

COME SEE THE MASSIVE ILLEGAL ALIEN VOTER FRAUD INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM!!!11

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I say we need the Great Wall of America. If we stop the war we can make the Chinese look like chumps. When the soldiers come back, what will they do? Build a sweet wall. A sweet mega wall that no man can climb.
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funny, part of the investigation into the attempted voter purges in florida this year found that out of the 3k people they were trying to purge from just the miami/dade county voter rolls, 3 were non-citizens and 4 were dead people.

COME SEE THE MASSIVE ILLEGAL ALIEN VOTER FRAUD INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM!!!11



When people think of voter fraud they should automatically think of the Bush administration.
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Yeah, it was purely an election year political move.

Gee, whatever gave you that idea?
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When people think of voter fraud they should automatically think of the Bush administration.

Indeed. They were the ones who did the multimillion dollar investigation that found that americans were more likely to be struck by lightning while being attacked by a shark than to vote fraudulently in our elections...

also the administration who started firing AGs when they wouldn't bring baseless voter fraud charges against people to help bolster the republican line about rampant voter fraud...

they needed that one dead illegal alien felon who voted a dozen times and they just couldn't come up with even one. What did they come up with?

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6046

coulter was later cleared but for all the cries of rampant voter fraud the best republicans can come up with is a video of one of their own operatives, ALA james O'keefe of ACORN fame, committing voter fraud...

BORKED


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We need more republicans like this:

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