OWS is really a mental health crisis.

[VapoRub]

Logan's Run. Get robots and technology to do all the work, create a population cap, and then force everyone to wear revealing clothing.

[mikeawesome]

mandatory death age at 70

[[H]ard|On]

Originally Posted by s0me0nesmind1

ITT: The intellectual level of the liberals here.

This deserves to go into the dumbass political cartoon thread... Excellent example of how detached most Republitards are.


Americans are NOT opposed to Obama/Romney care, hence it's in place...
Americans are not opposed to socialism so we have many social services.
Americans are not opposed to Obama hence he is president.
And the stimulus was signed by republicans, started by republicans and is now hated by republicans - who can't ever keep their straight.

[TUT RAGE!!!]

Originally Posted by [H]ard|On

This deserves to go into the dumbass political cartoon thread... Excellent example of how detached most Republitards are.


Americans are NOT opposed to Obama/Romney care, hence it's in place...
Americans are not opposed to socialism so we have many social services.
Americans are not opposed to Obama hence he is president.
And the stimulus was signed by republicans, started by republicans and is now hated by republicans - who can't ever keep their straight.

Republicans drive BMWs.
So what does that make you?
Democrats drive hybrids and Corollas/Camry/Civics.

[Vote McCain!]

Originally Posted by s0me0nesmind1

ITT: The intellectual level of the liberals here.

I'm rolling my eyes so hard i can see the back of my skull. Also, that term "liberal" doesn't always mean what you portray it to mean (same goes for the term "conservative").

[Vote McCain!]

Originally Posted by TUT RAGE!!!

Republicans drive BMWs.
So what does that make you?
Democrats drive hybrids and Corollas/Camry/Civics.

Please enlighten us; what exactly are your trying to prove with your intellectually stimulating sentence fragments?

My grandfather is a registered democrat that drives a BMW. My grandmother on my mom's side is a registered republican and she drives a Prius. I could walk down the street for 5 minutes in portland (or any city rather) and find hundreds of similar examples. All of your generalizations about republicans, democrats, people who drive BMWs, and people who drive hybrids are incorrect.

[CharyouTree]

Originally Posted by dio

I believe that the intuitionthat you should have your basic needs met, always, is a correct intuition that most OWS people have.

You should never have to worry about losing your small studio apartment, losing a cheap car, not getting proper food, and not getting basic healthcare. These basics should be provided for. No one should be living on the streets, and no one should have to eat bad food, and no one should be suffering needlessly from easily corrected health problems, and no one should have to bust their balls to get adequate transportation.

I've actually gone back and forth on this opinion alot. At one point I used to think, fuck no, if you don't work and don't make it, you starve in the streets. Then at another point I would hold the opinion I just expressed, that basics should be provided by a system. I've gone back and forth between these two opinions alot, and ultimately decided that the system where all basics would be provided would be a far better system all around for everyone, because if everyone had basics covered this would primarily do three things:
1. Make people alot less afraid to fail, and more likely to take risks. People would be more willing to invest all they got in attempting to try something, making new businesses, coming up with new ideas. Whatever. This would also have the effect that really shitty employers could not exist. If someone is a shitty employer, the employees would always have the option to quit. No one would ever have to undergo demeaning work and psychological abuse that shitty employers often force people into. This would make it so that the market is no longer controlled and driven by fear, it would instead be controlled and driven by what people actually like, what people actually need, what is actually good for humanity. It will allow us to evolve faster.
2. With that lower the overall stress and tension and 'survival mode' state of mind people exist in will be lessened considerably. Lower stress, lower tension, not being in survival mode or other lower states of consciousness will ultimately produce a much more intelligent and creative culture. Ultimately making a much better problem solving culture, and a much more capable culture. This will also most likely radically lower crime, and with lowered stress radically lower overall health care costs, and bad habits people develop from stress.
3. Such a system would turn everyone into rabid consumers. If you never had to worry about covering your rent, car, or food, the only reason you would work, or create, is to buy other things, spend money on other things. This would make the economy churn much much quicker, and allow all those 'riskier' business ideas, and creative business endeavors to have a much greater shot of making it somewhere.

You're out of your fucking mind, or trolling. I'm still not sure which.

1) Your definition of basic needs, and what basic needs REALLY are, are a far cry off from each other.

2) You think if people didn't HAVE to shovel shit, work 18 hour days on the farm, clean toilets, throw garbage into the back of a truck <insert shitty job here) that they would? I give you credit for giving people the benefit of the doubt, but there is no fucking way that's happening. Never mind people not working AT ALL because they didn't have to, but the basic jobs (the "dirty jobs" if you will) would NOT fucking get done. If they did, it's because someone came along and said "damn...we really need this done. We'll pay you a shit ton of money to do it." (Which is the case for many things, now.)

[Xcric]

Originally Posted by CharyouTree

You're out of your fucking mind, or trolling. I'm still not sure which.

its the first bit. it can be scientifically proven.

[5ive]

Originally Posted by CharyouTree

You're out of your fucking mind, or trolling. I'm still not sure which.

1) Your definition of basic needs, and what basic needs REALLY are, are a far cry off from each other.

2) You think if people didn't HAVE to shovel shit, work 18 hour days on the farm, clean toilets, throw garbage into the back of a truck <insert shitty job here) that they would? I give you credit for giving people the benefit of the doubt, but there is no fucking way that's happening. Never mind people not working AT ALL because they didn't have to, but the basic jobs (the "dirty jobs" if you will) would NOT fucking get done. If they did, it's because someone came along and said "damn...we really need this done. We'll pay you a shit ton of money to do it." (Which is the case for many things, now.)

protip: Ignore anything dio says

[[H]ard|On]

Originally Posted by TUT RAGE!!!

Republicans drive BMWs.
So what does that make you?
Democrats drive hybrids and Corollas/Camry/Civics.

It makes me a maverick

/republican answer

[joemama]

Originally Posted by Vote McCain!

I'm rolling my eyes so hard i can see the back of my skull.

Now this I can believe, most people have a little something between their eyes and back of the skull.

[OneWhoKnows]

Originally Posted by s0me0nesmind1

ITT: The intellectual level of the liberals here.

I'm no liberal, but you sure make conservatives look bad.

[topcat989]

Originally Posted by OneWhoKnows

I'm no liberal, but you sure make conservatives look bad.

He represents himself, not all conservatives. Unless you want to start acknowledging the most retarded 99%er makes all liberals look bad, most ignorant black panther "kill whitey!" represents all blacks, most ignorant neo nazi "kill all Sheikhs!" represents white people, the most ignorant....etc, etc, etc

[OneWhoKnows]

Originally Posted by topcat989

He represents himself, not all conservatives. Unless you want to start acknowledging the most retarded 99%er makes all liberals look bad, most ignorant black panther "kill whitey!" represents all blacks, most ignorant neo nazi "kill all Sheikhs!" represents white people, the most ignorant....etc, etc, etc

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. The actions of one person can make their respective organizations look bad, this happens all the time.

[[H]ard|On]

Originally Posted by topcat989

He represents himself, not all conservatives. Unless you want to start acknowledging the most retarded 99%er makes all liberals look bad, most ignorant black panther "kill whitey!" represents all blacks, most ignorant neo nazi "kill all Sheikhs!" represents white people, the most ignorant....etc, etc, etc

We know he isn't like every conservative, just the vast majority.