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I love how libs thing war is somehow just a money hose right into a fire. War means jobs for american defense companies, technological break throughs, all the ancillary support that goes around those companies like truckers and pilots and sandwich shops.

You spend no money on defense and guess what, you will eventually be taken over. Then what? Too late to start that engine again when it got fucking nuked by China.

Wow, really... You're going to advocate war as a driving force for the economy. Sure let's ignore the fact that it costs much more than it makes, or that this ideology makes you an inhuman out of touch tyrant wannabe.

Name some technology that has graced our world since the Iraq war. I'll be sure to check back in, I'm genuinely curious.
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Name some technology that has graced our world since the Iraq war. I'll be sure to check back in, I'm genuinely curious.

We got lots of subjects for research into the effects of traumatic brain injury.
Old 08-30-2012, 06:02 AM Gibonius is offline  
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Nothing but broken promises. The man had nearly 2 years to do anything he wanted. He was a liberal president with the most liberal congress EVAR!
But no Obama is so confused and has no idea what he is doing he had to bribe liberal congress members to vote for his healthcare bill.

He had so much power he could have gotten a law through that said everyone had to wear pink on every third Thursday.

But unemployment keeps going up and up in the whole country (minus a few states with republican govs).
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:33 AM Rancidpunk666 is offline  
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Shouldn't you be happy that he didn't pass a bunch of liberal legislation?

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Nothing but broken promises. The man had nearly 2 years to do anything he wanted.
Except for the fillibusters after Ted Kennedy died in Aug 2009, cutting a full year off that 2 years.

No President ever fulfills all their campaign promises. Situations change, Congress doesn't participate, there's not enough time to get everything done. Obama's had the worst Congress ever to deal with, one that explicitly stated that they were going to do everything possible to prevent him from accomplishing anything so they could get rid of him. No concern for the health of the country; they even created a crisis strictly for political gain with the debt ceiling. I'm sure as hell not going to reward that sort of behavior by voting for them, even if I'm not thrilled by Obama's performance.
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He was a liberal president with the most liberal congress EVAR!
Obama's about as liberal as Reagan if you actually look at their policies. Congress certainly isn't anywhere close to as liberal as it was at various other points this century.
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But no Obama is so confused and has no idea what he is doing he had to bribe liberal congress members to vote for his healthcare bill.
While I'll agree that Obama was not as effective at leading the Democrats as I'd have liked, "bribery" is sort of how politics works.

Besides, only a crazy person would vote for Romney because Obama didn't pass as many liberal laws as they wanted. Romney won't pass any, and is pledging to make his Day 1 act repealing one of the biggest things Obama has done.

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But unemployment keeps going up and up in the whole country (minus a few states with republican govs).
Except for the trivial fact that unemployment has gone down in every single state except New York and New Jersey (which has a Republican governor).
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Nothing but broken promises.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me.../promise-kept/

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The man had nearly 2 years to do anything he wanted. He was a liberal president with the most liberal congress EVAR!
Where do you get this nonsense? If it was the most liberal congress ever, they would have raised taxes, passed universal single payer and given us a much larger and longer lasting stimulus.

There is nothing "most liberal" about the democrats in power.

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But no Obama is so confused and has no idea what he is doing he had to bribe liberal congress members to vote for his healthcare bill.
Because the "most liberal congress ever" passed a health care bill that wasn't liberal enough considering it was written by the heritage foundation and implemented by the
"conservative" running against obama.

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He had so much power he could have gotten a law through that said everyone had to wear pink on every third Thursday.
Republicans had bigger majorities from 1995-2007. A two seat majority is not all the power on earth.

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But unemployment keeps going up and up in the whole country (minus a few states with republican govs).


You mean the ones who belly ached about how awful the stimulus was before it passed then sued the feds to get more stimulus money once it passed?

http://offthekuff.com/wp/?p=31465

Or the ones who ignore the facts and say everything is great even though their state came in dead last in job creation?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...ction-miracle/
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On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.
The good news is that the Romney-Ryan campaign has likely created dozens of new jobs among the legions of additional fact checkers that media outlets are rushing to hire to sift through the mountain of cow dung that flowed from Ryan’s mouth. Said fact checkers have already condemned certain arguments that Ryan still irresponsibly repeated
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Yesterday, at an ABC News panel, Mitt Romney pollster Neil Newhouse said, “We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers.” Wednesday’s speech from Paul Ryan certainly took that disdain for truth to heart, as his address was filled with falsehoods from start to finish.
Fox and Washington Post? Did Jesus showed up at the RNC?
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It's funny. If Obama is so awful, why do they need to lie about him so much?
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It's funny. If Obama is so awful, why do they need to lie about him so much?
What's funny(?) is that he really is an awful human being lol
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What's funny(?) is that he really is an awful human being lol

Whats funny is by seeing an article against Paul Ryan / Romney the liberal weak minded here stand by their candidate and say: "Look, it's Jesus! He's perfect!" Toolbags. This whole "Right did something bad, so therfore the left is perfect" game is fockin' he-lair-e-us.
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Whats funny is by seeing an article against Paul Ryan / Romney the liberal weak minded here stand by their candidate and say: "Look, it's Jesus! He's perfect!" Toolbags. This whole "Right did something bad, so therfore the left is perfect" game is fockin' he-lair-e-us.

I'm seriously curious, what did you expect after 2 wars, the housing bubble bursting, the banking and the auto bailouts, and our credit rating getting lowered? All I keep hearing is Obama sucks because of the debt and the economy isn't booming but what did you realistically expect!? Especially with a republican control congress that can implement more changes than Obama can. Everything you have stated so far has been torn apart, factually retorted, and empirically disproven. Seriously, what is it about Obama you don't like that makes you feel butt hurt?
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Whats funny is by seeing an article against Paul Ryan / Romney the liberal weak minded here stand by their candidate and say: "Look, it's Jesus! He's perfect!" Toolbags. This whole "Right did something bad, so therfore the left is perfect" game is fockin' he-lair-e-us.

Except not one single person is saying that you dumbest of fucks.
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Except not one single person is saying that you dumbest of fucks.

bwahahahah you 'tards are so bogus you actually believe the crap you spew apparently.

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Seriously, there is a fucking billion posts in here I can quote - yourself included - that points at exactly what was said

Gawd I can't wait till this election is over. Either way I can at least say either nobama or nobama in 4 more
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Romney's prolly gonna lose

who do you want to run in 2016
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