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So there you have it. I disagree that it's murder but planning a family is definitely better than finding yourself having one and having to rely on others.

You're getting the point. If Jesus hated the concept he'd come back down and say something. I think Jesus would rather have us live harmoniously. Where does the religious obsession about embryos come from anyway? Doesn't the bible also say "don't throw your seed on the ground" or something like that implying that masturbating is also not good? I don't see too many conservatives (besides Rick Perry) on a crusade to stop people from jacking off.....

how is it not murder? you're ending the life of a fetus because of your own irresponsibility (assuming non-rape, healthy moms and fetuses)
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Fetuses aren't people. Corporations are people.

Seriously though, things which are part of your body and cannot survive on their own or exhibit consciousness are not considered a separate individual.

Even in the bible, the penalty for ending a pregnancy is a fine. Wearing mixed fibers will get you the death penalty.
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how is it not murder? you're ending the life of a fetus because of your own irresponsibility (assuming non-rape, healthy moms and fetuses)

Lock it down folks, Colicious has solved a moral quandary that has existed for millenia. No more questions, let's just pack up and go.
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how is it not murder? you're ending the life of a fetus because of your own irresponsibility (assuming non-rape, healthy moms and fetuses)

Murder is ending the life of a free thinking, actual individual who doesn't want to die. (Otherwise it would be assisted suicide)

I see abortion as less benign than ending the life of a perma-vegetable who can't talk or move, isn't conscious and has no family to visit him/her (unwanted).

Have you ever asked a fetus if they want to live or not? I support the rights of actual PEOPLE who have been born, and get to make decisions about their own fucking life, which includes offspring.
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FURTHERMORE I support the idea that every child should grow up in a loving family who expects and wants the newborn. I've seen what happens to unwanted children and it isn't easy for them or their parents. Real simple.
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how is it not murder? you're ending the life of a fetus because of your own irresponsibility (assuming non-rape, healthy moms and fetuses)

So women should be put in jail for manslaughter when they menstruate and 13 year olds get hanged because of wet dreams?

Or the woman / family waiting longer to have a child so they can bring a child up in the best environment they can. What's even unsympathetically, the Conservatives vote against programs to help single/gay/both parents. Basically all they want to do is increase the lower class by pushing your morality on others. Larger lower class = lower labor costs.
Why don't most Conservative families adopt children?
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Fetuses aren't people. Corporations are people.

Seriously though, things which are part of your body and cannot survive on their own or exhibit consciousness are not considered a separate individual.

Even in the bible, the penalty for ending a pregnancy is a fine. Wearing mixed fibers will get you the death penalty.

new borns cant survive on their own
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Murder is ending the life of a free thinking, actual individual who doesn't want to die. (Otherwise it would be assisted suicide)

I see abortion as less benign than ending the life of a perma-vegetable who can't talk or move, isn't conscious and has no family to visit him/her (unwanted).

Have you ever asked a fetus if they want to live or not? I support the rights of actual PEOPLE who have been born, and get to make decisions about their own fucking life, which includes offspring.

newborns dont have the capacity to be free thinking or even knows what life or death is. they are purely instinctual
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So women should be put in jail for manslaughter when they menstruate and 13 year olds get hanged because of wet dreams?

Or the woman / family waiting longer to have a child so they can bring a child up in the best environment they can. What's even unsympathetically, the Conservatives vote against programs to help single/gay/both parents. Basically all they want to do is increase the lower class by pushing your morality on others. Larger lower class = lower labor costs.
Why don't most Conservative families adopt children?

and you're just stupid
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newborns dont have the capacity to be free thinking or even knows what life or death is. they are purely instinctual

A newborn is not a fetus. Or an embryo.

Most people don't even know the difference by the way.
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new borns cant survive on their own

True, but they are neither attached to, nor part of a woman at that point. They are an individual.
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FURTHERMORE I support the idea that every child should grow up in a loving family who expects and wants the newborn. I've seen what happens to unwanted children and it isn't easy for them or their parents. Real simple.

You know, there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of married people in our country that cannot have children, nor can afford 50k adopt from China right?
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You know, there are hundreds of thousands if not millions of married people in our country that cannot have children, nor can afford 50k adopt from China right?

Yes and there are foster homes filled to the brim with children, do you have a fucking point or something you're about to make?
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Yes and there are foster homes filled to the brim with children, do you have a fucking point or something you're about to make?

The government has made it nearly impossible to adopt from foster homes unless you've been a foster parent for umpteen million years.

And some people don't want to have to receive government funding to "foster/adopt" a kid,.

Instead of killing an unborn baby, why not deal with your decision to have sex for 9-10 months, then give it up to a private adoption agency?

We want to be so open about having sex and keeping abortion legal, yet we're completely embarrassed of the idea of an unwed woman being pregnant.

Fucking, war on women... The libs are the ones causing the war on women.
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The government has made it nearly impossible to adopt from foster homes unless you've been a foster parent for umpteen million years.

And some people don't want to have to receive government funding to "foster/adopt" a kid,.

Instead of killing an unborn baby, why not deal with your decision to have sex for 9-10 months, then give it up to a private adoption agency?

We want to be so open about having sex and keeping abortion legal, yet we're completely embarrassed of the idea of an unwed woman being pregnant.

Fucking, war on women... The libs are the ones causing the war on women.
Are you handicapped?

According to foster care statistics there are 400k children in foster care (without dissecting that amount to biological and non-biological foster care).

You, apparently wanting to blabber absurdities about adoption in some medieval crusade to prevent people from scraping tissue out of a woman's innards, actually live and think in some alternate universe where actually putting more children in foster care systems, somehow *reduces* adoption-related problems. There's this thing called "reality" where normal people live, where putting more children in foster care ....well, puts more people in foster care.


I'm actually having a hard time understanding what you're actually trying to say, because it's so fucking retarded.
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