How to really cut spending

[[H]ard|On]

At least now the republicans have for the most part turned on GW. As in yeah he fucked us but you aren't unfucking us fast enough! I'll call that progress but thats like putting your boots on before hiking to the arctic circle.

[pyramid]

http://freakoutnation.com/2012/08/25...cit-reduction/

[s0me0nesmind1]

Originally Posted by CRasch

What Obama did in the last four years even with the republicans controlled congress blocking or abstaining from every progressive vote.
- Government spending dropped from 3.5 to 3.4T
- Economic growth of 5.9 from the start of his administration to 6.8 today
- Down Jones was at 6K, now its above 13K
- Industrial Production Index 87.4 to 97.4
- Consumer spending was on 2% decline is now overall closer to a 2% increase
- 3.9 million jobs gained since the start of his presidency.
- Working towards ending the WAR in IRAQ and getting us out of Afghanistan.
- Passed Universal Health Care (Even though it was mostly the same thing as Romnycare! And its predicted to change from a cost system to a income system for the government while lowering the cost to all of us)
Hey there are some bad sides too but so far with the economy he started with from Bush, he's getting the nation on a better track then it was. Now if he just stops trying to close marijuana shops and just tax and regulate them.

1) Quit pulling numbers out of your anus
2) The stimulus is what gave any factual items you said. Congrats! You won a free trillion$, WHAT ARE YOU GUN DO WIT IT? ohhh... fail all expectations of what it was meant to do? Niiiiiiiiiiiiice.

[s0me0nesmind1]

Originally Posted by pyramid

I think he should have pushed harder for a public option but what are you gonna do when you spend 90% of a health care debate simply explaining why the mandate is not a communist government takeover of healthcare.

We never get to discuss the things he's actually done because we spend all our time defending him from the things he didn't do.

Perhaps he should take a day off from his record breaking golf games? You know, the ones where he has shot more holes in his 4 year than any other candidate has in 4 OR 8 years?

[Straw Man]

[CRasch]

Originally Posted by s0me0nesmind1

1) Quit pulling numbers out of your anus
2) The stimulus is what gave any factual items you said. Congrats! You won a free trillion$, WHAT ARE YOU GUN DO WIT IT? ohhh... fail all expectations of what it was meant to do? Niiiiiiiiiiiiice.

Trillion? did you even read what I posted. It was 100 Billion 0.1T. Someone who doesn't even know how to calculate decimal points wants to school me in economic policy? Really?
Not only that, it was the republican policy who fought the regulation of the economic stimulus
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/refere...ncy/index.html

Still a lot better than the last president did!
http://myesoteric.hubpages.com/hub/W...ree-Years-LOTS

The hard truth is that democratic presidents has in the last 20 years have show a cut in deficit spending and one even started to pay the deficit off. So far most of the republican presidents have increased spending and cut taxes while putting us into more debt because of the stupid "Starve the Beast" policies. The Republican policy is to put the government in bankruptcy so they can do what ever they want. Stop all regulation by stopping government spending on enforcement. Guess who gets the bill when the rich moves to another country, the rest of us.
http://www.forbes.com/2010/05/06/tax...-bartlett.html

[1MeanBean]

Originally Posted by brfatal

We can start by ceasing the funding of Medicare and Medicaid.

This is a joke right?

[CRasch]

Originally Posted by 1MeanBean

This is a joke right?

I hope it's a Poe too.

[Gibonius]

Originally Posted by s0me0nesmind1

1) Quit pulling numbers out of your anus

Translation: facts make me uncomfortable, so I'm going to ignore them while not refuting them in any substantive way whatsoever.

[[H]ard|On]

Watched the two hour thing on CNN about him. They had him, his roommates, his friends, his wife, etc

He is a well intentioned man who admits to not wanting to tell the truth of his political stances not to repeat his father's mistakes (when he ran for president). Bottom line: not presidential material but perhaps a good local youth group leader for a Mormon church.

[pyramid]

Originally Posted by s0me0nesmind1

Perhaps he should take a day off from his record breaking golf games? You know, the ones where he has shot more holes in his 4 year than any other candidate has in 4 OR 8 years?

Uh, Bush took three times as many vacation days in his first three years. Reagan took twice as many vacation days in his first three years. The only president in modern history who has had fewer vacation days than Obama was Bill Clinton.

http://news.yahoo.com/comparison-rec...160400657.html

Originally Posted by s0me0nesmind1

1) Quit pulling numbers out of your anus
2) The stimulus is what gave any factual items you said. Congrats! You won a free trillion$, WHAT ARE YOU GUN DO WIT IT? ohhh... fail all expectations of what it was meant to do? Niiiiiiiiiiiiice.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...ss.single.html

[s0me0nesmind1]

Originally Posted by pyramid

Uh, Bush took three times as many vacation days in his first three years. Reagan took twice as many vacation days in his first three years. The only president in modern history who has had fewer vacation days than Obama was Bill Clinton.

http://news.yahoo.com/comparison-rec...160400657.html



http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...ss.single.html

That retarded Yahoo shows absolutely nothing of value - it doesn't say golf games. It doesn't state that - yes - it possible to work while at a property that you own. You don't work when you are on vacation in Hawaii

Either way, those paragraphs of babbling show no numbers in relation to overall costs and overall days of not working.

[pyramid]

Originally Posted by s0me0nesmind1

That retarded Yahoo shows absolutely nothing of value - it doesn't say golf games. It doesn't state that - yes - it possible to work while at a property that you own. You don't work when you are on vacation in Hawaii

Either way, those paragraphs of babbling show no numbers in relation to overall costs and overall days of not working.

so presidential vacation time is measured in rounds of golf played, not the number of days spent on vacation?

[[H]ard|On]

He'd make a good lawyer.. or a terrible one I don't know

[Gibonius]

Originally Posted by s0me0nesmind1

That retarded Yahoo shows absolutely nothing of value - it doesn't say golf games. It doesn't state that - yes - it possible to work while at a property that you own. You don't work when you are on vacation in Hawaii

Either way, those paragraphs of babbling show no numbers in relation to overall costs and overall days of not working.

Translation: facts make me uncomfortable and disrupt my idiot blog-fueled narrative, please stop posting them.