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Old 09-05-2012, 07:54 PM [H]ard|On is offline  
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The thing is that that's not even really something to brag about, other than to pander to right wingers who wouldn't vote for him anyway
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No but if the dems stopped being so bipolar on the economy, oh we're all better off, no wait were still fucked because of bush. I just think there are more important things to focus on. If Obama gets elected to a 2nd term he will go after weapons.


I'm not arguing the repubs haves fucked sense how to fix the economy but...

Don't matter. I voting for Gary Johnson and whatever happens happens and well all deal with it

lolz, the democrats didn't even want to touch the gun debate after the shootings this summer. What makes you think they're going to aggressively push anti-gun legislation, especially given a political climate in which even centrist legislation (Obamacare) is reviled by conservatives? Not to mention that the economy is still foremost on everyone's minds
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No but if the dems stopped being so bipolar on the economy, oh we're all better off, no wait were still fucked because of bush.
Both those things can be true at the same time. Clinton explained it pretty well tonight. Bush dug a big fucking hole, and we're better than we would have been, but the damage has not been fully repaired. It's not all that complicated.

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I just think there are more important things to focus on. If Obama gets elected to a 2nd term he will go after weapons.
A lot of libs would love him to, but it's not going to happen. The politics aren't there and he's never done anything in his career that would give any reason to believe he's going to make it a priority. Something like 30% of the country wants more gun control, it's not a political winner and he's not going to do it. Other than paranoid talk radio ramblings, why would anyone believe he's going to?
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There is already a ton of gun control and everyone knows it.

I agree that it's not going to happen any time soon.
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Both those things can be true at the same time. Clinton explained it pretty well tonight. Bush dug a big fucking hole, and we're better than we would have been, but the damage has not been fully repaired. It's not all that complicated.


A lot of libs would love him to, but it's not going to happen. The politics aren't there and he's never done anything in his career that would give any reason to believe he's going to make it a priority. Something like 30% of the country wants more gun control, it's not a political winner and he's not going to do it. Other than paranoid talk radio ramblings, why would anyone believe he's going to?

It's in their updated party platform.
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It's in their updated party platform.

Link please

I doubt it, right before the election... Either way it'll be like legalizing weed - they're just not going to step into that pile of political diarrhea.



For the record i do support legally sold marijuana and do support individual ownership of firearms.
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It's in their updated party platform.

And the Republican Party platform has a plank saying they're going to study a return to the gold standard. But they're not going to go back to the gold standard in the real world.


That's how this shit works. Lots of stuff makes it into the platform to keep various interests in the party happy. If Obama continues to not talk about gun control at all, pretty damn good sign that he's not actually going to do it.

Learn to read subtext dawg.
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Oh my christ, are you serious about the gold standard thing....

There you go each guy throws a bone to the crazies.
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Link please

I doubt it, right before the election... Either way it'll be like legalizing weed - they're just not going to step into that pile of political diarrhea.



For the record i do support legally sold marijuana and do support individual ownership of firearms.

page 23 in the document

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...elections-2012
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And the Republican Party platform has a plank saying they're going to study a return to the gold standard. But they're not going to go back to the gold standard in the real world.


That's how this shit works. Lots of stuff makes it into the platform to keep various interests in the party happy. If Obama continues to not talk about gun control at all, pretty damn good sign that he's not actually going to do it.

Learn to read subtext dawg.

Of course he is not going to talk about it. He doesn't need a revolution on hand 2 months before election.

Also, even if the libs try to force it through, not gonna happen. They don't have control of house so It will never get through. He'd have to do it by executive order.

But it's the fact it's in the platform and they do want your evil black rifles that RESEMBLE a military rifle. ugh
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hay guyz, obama is going to put us all into death camps and he is going to make it mandatory by law for all of us to drink the blood of children

it's true and 100% verifiable. It doesn't read in his platform or anywhere else but he hasn't expressed he's NOT going to do that

true story and 100% verifiable
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Of course he is not going to talk about it. He doesn't need a revolution on hand 2 months before election.

Also, even if the libs try to force it through, not gonna happen. They don't have control of house so It will never get through. He'd have to do it by executive order.

But it's the fact it's in the platform and they do want your evil black rifles that RESEMBLE a military rifle. ugh

Well you've convinced yourself. Have fun with that. Go stock up or whatever it is you paranoids do.
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The budget deficit is over a Trillion a year..add the Trillion "stimulus" how does that add up to 1.4 Trillion? on that chart it shuld over 5 Trillion .
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The budget deficit is over a Trillion a year..add the Trillion "stimulus" how does that add up to 1.4 Trillion? on that chart it shuld over 5 Trillion .

Those are percentage budget increases, not budget amounts (which have amounted to close to $4T for the last several years, including Bush).

The budget deficit is over a trillion a year because our tax receipts cratered on the heels of 20% U6 unemployment. When nobody's working (more important than unemployment numbers is our population employment figure, which the BLS pegs at around 59% right now, down from 65% at the end of Bill Clinton's term), tax receipts naturally are lower, so even if the budget is only increased or decreased by a miniscule amount, the deficits can go much higher.

Bascially, you're only looking at the expense side of the equation, when there's an income side to consider, as well.
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