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Do you teach or something? I wouldn't go as far as to say it's harder than an engineering job But yes, teaching is not an easy path - especially given how kids these days seem to be with shit parents - which only makes it harder f or the teacher.

Completely agree with the 2nd sentence.

he, literally, is a fucking nuclear engineer
oh holy fucking
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jesus christ, that might've been the funniest thing i've read in this thread
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Whats funny? I asked if he was ever a teacher and agreed with his assertion

Yarrr I sense some ass-hat-ery going on hurr.
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Reality: you couldn't actually do 90% of the shit you say is "easy"
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Reality: you couldn't actually do 90% of the shit you say is "easy"

I didn't specialize in it - why would I say I have the qualifications?
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Whats funny? I asked if he was ever a teacher and agreed with his assertion

Yarrr I sense some ass-hat-ery going on hurr.

it's more laughing at Gibonius
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So a better question. Is the title of rapist's job "Nuclear Engineer" - or did he get a degree in "Nuclear Engineering" - there is quite a bit of difference between sitting in classes and doing something....

That, and the term "Teaching" is very wide open. You could be teaching retards (literally, special ed classes), K-12, honors classes, or college.
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Is singing hard? Is plumbing hard? How about particle physics? You basically sit around and talk to colleagues

There are different aptitudes and not all people can do every job you nitwit....


Ex: My dad was a physicist but couldn't build a room addition like my step dad who is a general contractor.

Give it a few more years of actual life in society before you start with your moronic opinions please.



it's a lot easier for a physicist to take wood working classes than it is for a carpenter to do physics research
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So a better question. Is the title of rapist's job "Nuclear Engineer" - or did he get a degree in "Nuclear Engineering" - there is quite a bit of difference between sitting in classes and doing something....

That, and the term "Teaching" is very wide open. You could be teaching retards (literally, special ed classes), K-12, honors classes, or college.

i'm fairly sure that he works daily with reactors and their control systems

his knowledge is grounded with real life experience
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And I was a teacher, so......


Really depends on how we define "teaching well" I suppose. The best teachers seem to have some innate talent and ability to relate material with enthusiasm and clarity, which may be harder to come by than the ability to learn complex and involved technical subjects. I really don't know. I certainly agree with his latter assessment that the vast majority of teachers are not on that level.

I can say for sure that I learned how to be a "decent" teacher a lot more easily than I learned my technical discipline.
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Their average right now is 76k, there had been an agreement for a 16% raise. That's 88k, average salary. Max value is something like 116k, so certainly the cap is lower on teaching than some of those engineering jobs but you also get pension, huge career stability, etc. Average is a meaningful comparison for this I think.


Using Chicago as a proxy for nationwide teaching salary policies. Some counties around here in DC have teachers making an average of 80k, which is just slightly under the average for a PhD research scientist. That's crazy.

Salary is generally commenserate with the difficulty of a job and a scarcity of people able to fill it. Teaching is not supremely difficult or suffering from a scarcity, so it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for localities to be paying big money.

The national average for teacher salary is dramatically lower and is probably much more in line with scarcity and difficulty. I'd like to see that number bumped up a little, but the trend in some places to just continuously raise teacher salaries is nuts.

I know my job is harder than teaching and has a lot smaller available pool of qualified people, so it's kind of annoying that teachers in my county are getting paid about the same that I do out of my tax money.

What about impact to society? Brittney Spears has irrelevant to negative impact on society and she makes more than you and the teachers combined every few days from album sales. Does this bother you?

Not to mention that seemingly all your reply consists of is conjecture. You're attempting to quantify "difficulty" and arbitrarily comparing it to whatever it is you do (without a mention of what that is). Then you climb out on a limb with stuff like "there are plenty of qualified teachers"
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And I was a teacher, so......


Really depends on how we define "teaching well" I suppose. The best teachers seem to have some innate talent and ability to relate material with enthusiasm and clarity, which may be harder to come by than the ability to learn complex and involved technical subjects. I really don't know. I certainly agree with his latter assessment that the vast majority of teachers are not on that level.

I can say for sure that I learned how to be a "decent" teacher a lot more easily than I learned my technical discipline.

Okay what grade did you teach and why did you stop - if your current job is HARDER and PAYS LESS

You're getting it - more talented people will get into the field of rearing our young if it's more worth it. DUH!
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Actually, the teachers that are most excited about teaching our youth don't seem like the money grubbing whore type that are in the protest pic. Everything about them shouts "Someone else makes more money than me! That's unfair!"

Anyone could easily confuse that shit for Occupy Wall Street fgts.
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