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Wall of useless text from an insecure female that when something happens such as an emotional breakdown over a relationship simply responds to everyone "YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IVE BEEN THROUGH!!11" No... We do.... You're not special. Go ahead and think you are if it makes you feel better, sugar tits.

Teaching isn't any different than any other job. I never said it was easier than your other typical job, but it certainly isn't any harder But go ahead and try to say it is - it's cute - All those "hard hours" grading papers while in bed watching Gilmore Girls I'm sure will do wonders when comparing to people who work construction outside in 100+ degree weather for 10-14 hour days and have 0 benefits or overtime is going to just shower us with admiration.

And please, provide some backup when you say teachers are required to attend "professional development" - You say that like they are required to continue their college education - Why else do you see the same teachers teaching in the same grade levels for 25+ years?

To teach any grade level, either in the area of elementary, middle, or high school, you actually have the same initial amount of education- a Bachelor's degree. So switching grade levels has no effect on the amount of education they've had- maybe they just really like that grade level. As a teacher with a Bachelor's degree, you are required to get your Master's degree within a certain amount of time. The actual time frame varies by state. As for grading papers and watching Gilmore Girls, well I'm just going to go ahead and guess you don't understand what goes into grading. It IS different from some other jobs, in that you HAVE to take work home all the time. Not like, oh, I didn't get to this at work so I have to do it at home to get it in on time, but I spent all day teaching and being accountable for my students, and when I had time available I had to do planning and meetings, then I stayed after school to help students out, so now I have to go home and grade 25 5-page papers, and also write their test. And also look at the errors the students made to assess whether there's enough of the same error that I didn't teach something well enough or clearly enough, or whether just a few people made the mistake and I can just address it briefly with them.

I'm not a teacher, but I've actually spent time with and around them. I'm not having an emotional breakdown, I'm simply pointing out that you're talking out of your ass. Everything you've said so far has been grossly misinformed. Don't take it personally, it's not your fault you don't know what you're talking about, but generally in that case you shouldn't try to act like an authority. If anyone's being emotionally butthurt here, it's you; you're the one defensively using caps locks and s.
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Also, professional development requirements/certification requirements vary from state to state, but here's an example explaining some of the different certificates teachers may hold (certificates ON TOP of a Bachelor's or Master's, not in lieu of), and the different CEU credit requirements.
http://www.bcps.org/offices/personne...tification.pdf
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Every fucking job is different. Every fucking job requires different skills. Every fucking job requires different devotion to it - whether it is random changes in schedule, working 12 hour days and not getting overtime. Calling on that requirement to get a Master's - pull a half decent reference on such random loads of crap

You obviously have nothing to say about my comment for engineering/construction, because you can't fucking trump that. But you still have this pea-brain thought process that I somehow said teaching is easier than other jobs Ever worked blue collar jobs? Yeah, if you don't get shit done by a deadline at work, you take that work home, or you sit at your desk finishing it. So for the last time, quit thinking that teaching is sooooooooo much different than aaaaaaaaaaanything else I guess it's a woman thing to always think you're special - and no one else could POSSIBLY imagine what it is like. Insecurity at it's finest, yessir.


At no point was I using caps lock other than to emphasize what crying baby inferior women such as yourself does - your thought process is mind boggling.
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HAHAAHAHAHA nice link broceritops. Goes further to disprove the that spews from your mouth. Nothing in there says ANYTHING about needing to get a masters.

Having to additional training/certs is no different than any other job You obviously haven't hit the professional world, have you?
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If education takes more than having the teacher, book, pencil, and paper - you're a part of the problem. You're always on here bitching up a storm about how our government doesn't do enough - must go hand in hand with how far you got in life. Shut the fuck up and bag my groceries

do you do trig by pen and paper?

fuck man, you're a bad ass
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HAHAAHAHAHA nice link broceritops. Goes further to disprove the that spews from your mouth. Nothing in there says ANYTHING about needing to get a masters.

Having to additional training/certs is no different than any other job You obviously haven't hit the professional world, have you?

I wasn't linking to anything about the Master's requirement, I was linking to something talking about CEU/Professional Development. The link to requirements about Master's would be different.

Here is a link to requirements to become a teacher in NYS, including a part about your initial certification only being good for 5 years, and within that 5 years you must get a Master's.

http://www.brockport.edu/certificati...ckOverview.pdf

I worked my last job for 5+ years, had to be certified, and had to keep my CEUs up to date or risk losing my certification. However, what counted as CEUs was pretty shoddy compared to the classes you actually have to take as a teacher. Most jobs that have trainings do the trainings in-house or farm you out, but you're paid for your time spent there. You go during the work day. It might be a meeting with somebody they brought in, or it might be a weekend team-building exercise, but it's not going to be night classes you're not only unpaid for, but YOU yourself have to pay for.
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Teaching isn't any different than any other job. I never said it was easier than your other typical job, but it certainly isn't any harder But go ahead and try to say it is - it's cute - All those "hard hours" grading papers while in bed watching Gilmore Girls I'm sure will do wonders when comparing to people who work construction outside in 100+ degree weather for 10-14 hour days and have 0 benefits or overtime is going to just shower us with admiration.

as i said, my neighbor is a teacher
during the week she typically works a 11-12 hour day, and she usually works 4-6 hours one day of the weekend

"isn't any different than any other job."
"certainly isn't any harder"


you're a fucking idiot
and hey numbnuts, i'm not some girl getting my tits in a bunch, why don't you go back and respond to any of my posts
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Every fucking job is different. Every fucking job requires different skills. Every fucking job requires different devotion to it - whether it is random changes in schedule, working 12 hour days and not getting overtime. Calling on that requirement to get a Master's - pull a half decent reference on such random loads of crap

You obviously have nothing to say about my comment for engineering/construction, because you can't fucking trump that. But you still have this pea-brain thought process that I somehow said teaching is easier than other jobs Ever worked blue collar jobs? Yeah, if you don't get shit done by a deadline at work, you take that work home, or you sit at your desk finishing it. So for the last time, quit thinking that teaching is sooooooooo much different than aaaaaaaaaaanything else I guess it's a woman thing to always think you're special - and no one else could POSSIBLY imagine what it is like. Insecurity at it's finest, yessir.


At no point was I using caps lock other than to emphasize what crying baby inferior women such as yourself does - your thought process is mind boggling.

It's adorable that your best argument is I'm wrong because I'm a woman. That's probably my favorite part of this thread. Nevermind that other people have disagree with you as well, but I'm just a crazy woman. My vagina is typing this as we speak.
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It's adorable that your best argument is I'm wrong because I'm a woman. That's probably my favorite part of this thread. Nevermind that other people have disagree with you as well, but I'm just a crazy woman. My vagina is typing this as we speak.

Nice counter to all my points sugar tits. You would be excellent in a debate In addition to the fact that you are still full of shit with requiring a masters. The link you pulled is some random unprofessional pdf - none of which describes state requirements. It's a load of crap and unprofessional pdf from a ceritifcation office, which obviously is in it to make money - hence the advertisement. Why don't you go about something... let's say... ohhhh... Usable/Worthy in a debate? Like the link below showing how you don't need one in Florida.
http://www.fldoe.org/edcert/cert_types.asp

And hate to break it to you - other than your fellow butt-brigade of asshats, very few are disagreeing
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why don't you go back and respond to any of my posts

Tactics, my boy. Tactics. Make absurd statement, hammer home, repeat until truth. It's the Goebbels... I mean... Republican way.
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I don't even give a shit about the unions or protests in chicago--I just like this thread because s0me0nesmind1 is an entertaining jackass who is inflammatory just to be offensive, and doesn't actually know anything. Wasn't he living with his mom a couple months ago? I wonder what his job is
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Tactics, my boy. Tactics. Make absurd statement, hammer home, repeat until truth. It's the Goebbels... I mean... Republican way.

Or.... or... and here is a more probable reason - the simple concept of not replying to asshats that don't put any thought or effort into their case/point. Want me to reply? Put more than just trollolololol
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Or.... or... and here is a more probable reason - the simple concept of not replying to asshats that don't put any thought or effort into their case/point. Want me to reply? Put more than just trollolololol

I already said you were wrong (although I was a bit more insulting) regarding the graphic you posted of the distribution of IQ by race, but you seemed to ignore it.
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I don't even give a shit about the unions or protests in chicago--I just like this thread because s0me0nesmind1 is an entertaining jackass who is inflammatory just to be offensive, and doesn't actually know anything

Awww, thanks man - I appreciate that


Meh - I love to give a decent reply when someone makes a decent point - I'll use VoodoochildBC's posts as an example - makes great points. You can even point one's I *gasp* agreed with.

But seeing incontestable spewing of crap posts (including yours) - just goes to show how little you know.
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