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why? its not like he earned all that money

its a lot different when you didnt earn the money you got

Huh? I'm not mitt romney. My dad has not given me huge sums of money.

When I was a teenager my shoes were permanently stained green from walking behind a lawn mower because that was how I earned money.

When I went to college, I didn't get 120k in stock. I got $50 a week for food and gas.

When I came home from college I went to work and paid my own way.

I'm very lucky in that my family has wealth but we didn't always and if you think my dad just hands out money, you have no idea where he came from.
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I've come to the conclusion you are an elitist piece of shit.

While you know I am for extremely limited government assistance. Do you have any idea how little 23k a year is for a family of 4.

We can break this down if you want. I'll even make it an even 24k to allot for 2k a month

Assuming after taxes and all that a family is making 24k a year with only debt being a car payment. we can go from there
Monthly break down

Rent - 600
Renters insurance - 10
Electric - 40
Food - 300
Diapers (for 1 kid) - 75
Car gas (15 miles round trip for work) plus an additional gas for errands) - 125
Car payment (9000 dollar car with. 48 month loan) -200
Car wear and tear and maint. - 50
Car insurance - 75
Health insurance ( assuming main income earners is paid for by employer) - 400
Clothes, shoes, under garments - 60
Personal care - 30
Household items - 20

Comes to a grand total of 1,985. Eree isn't it.

Having 15 dollars left over each month for entertainment and savings.

Real nice raising kids on 24k a year. And yeah once the baby is out of diapers it will free up a little more money but the other costs will go up.


You got some real good thoughts buddy.

Yup. I think it would be hard for a couple to make it on $18k a year. Throw in two kids and there is no way that is easy living.

And you only get the EITC by working so I don't see any problem with it.
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This is all I have to say about 47% with "no tax liability". We all pay from dollar 1 to social security and medicare, and our employers (unless self-employed) are forbidden by law to disclose the payroll taxes that come right off the top of every dollar that you'd otherwise make as an employee.

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Exactly. The people who like to complain about that 47% don't seem to realize that that 47% is comprised of elderly retired persons living on SS, Students without jobs yet and the working poor who do work for a living but don't make over $30k a year.

Also that those working poor are still paying other taxes so they don't really enjoy a 0% or negative tax rate.
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Yup. I think it would be hard for a couple to make it on $18k a year. Throw in two kids and there is no way that is easy living.

And you only get the EITC by working so I don't see any problem with it.

I don't have a problem with it either. I do think it's irresponsible, but I don't think we should be china either.

Sorry bro. I didn't even realize it was you who made that post.

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why is mitt making it look so fucking easy for obama to win?

i think its a set up
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why is mitt making it look so fucking easy for obama to win?

i think its a set up

You sound like a conspiracy theory douchebag nutball

HOLY CRAP! postin on the intarwebs from my phone!
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You sound like a conspiracy theory douchebag nutball

HOLY CRAP! postin on the intarwebs from my phone!

why else would he just spew crazy shit like cutting off planned parenthood?


u know how many problems that would cause? no one should ever think that would be a good idea
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Exactly. The people who like to complain about that 47% don't seem to realize that that 47% is comprised of elderly retired persons living on SS, Students without jobs yet and the working poor who do work for a living but don't make over $30k a year.

Also that those working poor are still paying other taxes so they don't really enjoy a 0% or negative tax rate.

Not only are they paying other taxes, but said taxes are regressive (sales tax, for example)
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Exactly. The people who like to complain about that 47% don't seem to realize that that 47% is comprised of elderly retired persons living on SS, Students without jobs yet and the working poor who do work for a living but don't make over $30k a year.

Also that those working poor are still paying other taxes so they don't really enjoy a 0% or negative tax rate.

Let's not forget those lazy soldiers deployed in combat zones. How dare they not pay their fair share while hard working millionaires like Romney have to support them.
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why is mitt making it look so fucking easy for obama to win?

i think its a set up

Or, he really is so god damn fucking stupid. Un-fucking-believable. The son of a bitch says he's going to just give up on 47%? I mean, there's talking political strategy, and then there's saying it in front of a fundraiser. Private or not, that was fucking retarded just from a political viewpoint. Keep that shit to yourself, or at least the inner circle.
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why is mitt making it look so fucking easy for obama to win?

i think its a set up

did anyone ever seriously think he was a good candidate?

did you see the parade of alternates that preceded him?

He beat out a field that consisted of great minds like sarah palin, michelle bachmann, rick santorum, herman cain, newt gingrinch and Donald fucking Trump...

What do you expect from a party that is totally off the rails?
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Not only are they paying other taxes, but said taxes are regressive (sales tax, for example)

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Let's not forget those lazy soldiers deployed in combat zones. How dare they not pay their fair share while hard working millionaires like Romney have to support them.

Word.

Not only do the rich not want their kids fighting our wars, now they don't think they should have to pay for them either.
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I don't have a problem with it either. I do think it's irresponsible, but I don't think we should be china either.

Sorry bro. I didn't even realize it was you who made that post.

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Hey, If GM and Exxon can pay zero in taxes and Mitt Romney can write off 70k a year on a dancing horse and my dad can write off 60k on a porsche, why the fuck can't a working couple making 18 fucking thousand dollars a year write off 5k for trying to raise two kids properly?

They aren't making out like thieves on government largess. They are just barely scraping by.

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