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Still, do you expect 53% to hold up 47% WHILE supporting themselves? WHILE saving for retirement? WHILE saving to go back to school? WHILE making minimum wage? I just can't understand why someone would reason with the idea of 53% to accomidate themselves and hold up the other 47%

NO ONE MAKING MINIMUM WAGE IS IN THE 53%, DINGUS.

THAT'S THE FUCKING PROBLEM.
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Still, do you expect 53% to hold up 47% WHILE supporting themselves? WHILE saving for retirement? WHILE saving to go back to school? WHILE making minimum wage? I just can't understand why someone would reason with the idea of 53% to accomidate themselves and hold up the other 47%

In that 47% most people actually work, and pay taxes (including payroll). It's just that the Republicans have cut income taxes several times to the point that the low end has become zero. Most of them are working and self-sufficient, but the whole fucking point is that they DO pay taxes. It's not their fault that income taxes have been used as a campaign issue several times already.

In fact, Romney himself has proposed a 20% cut in income taxes for everyone, but not touching the payroll taxes. What the fuck is he talking about then? Not to mention, if he really believes that those 47% are Obama's (regardless that Obama isn't responsible for their income tax rate) no matter what then he should've quit a long time ago. After all, he'd need to win like 95% of the income-tax paying vote and that's just not going to happen.

You really haven't got a clue what you're talking about, and apparently Romney doesn't either.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democ...mney-and-taxes
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what does it matter? did they somehow unfairly gain their wealth? did the government come in and give those people more money than the other group?
Because the top 53% owns 95% of the wealth and they are the ones complaining all the time.

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

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Poor people who worked long and hard so that others might be fabulously wealthy while they are still be poor might well ask the same question. And they would be more right to ask it than the wealthy who have benefited the most from our system who bitch and moan about having to pay a little back to sustain the system so that others have the opportunity to follow in their footsteps.

seriously, the ayn rand shit is fucking old and tired and this point. If you think you can lift yourself up by your bootstraps in a vacuum, go live on a desert island where you will be free to do whatever you want without the big old nasty gubment providing anything for you.

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also, dont forget part of that 53% is also government empoyees, whose salary and pension is paid for by taxpayers



Yeah, because they get paid a decent salary which doesn't necessitate them being on government assistance.

better to pay them walmart wages so that they don't pay any income taxes and need government assistance to survive...

that will totally solve everything!

/come see the retardation in your thinking.
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How much wealth do the 53% own?

First question any liberal asks


"Well, are they doing better than I am??? WELL THEN BURN THEM AT THE STAKES!"

Entitlement is the subject of any given argument that liberals have.
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Still, do you expect 53% to hold up 47% WHILE supporting themselves? WHILE saving for retirement? WHILE saving to go back to school? WHILE making minimum wage? I just can't understand why someone would reason with the idea of 53% to accomidate themselves and hold up the other 47%

Roughly 60% of that 47 pay payroll taxes, roughly 20% are the elderly who Mitt promises to keep safe.
So, roughly 30% of that 47 is helping to support us, they are not hanging on the teat of your miracle worker 53%

HOLY CRAP! postin on the intarwebs from my phone!
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also, dont forget part of that 53% is also government empoyees, whose salary and pension is paid for by taxpayers

Sure, we clearly should pay PhDs working at the DoD and DoE minimum wage, since they're not contributing anything, except maybe atomic power, nuclear weapons, numbers 1, 3, and 6 of the top 10 supercomputers, the global positioning system, and the internet.

And let's just zero all those soldiers pay, I mean, they're government employees too, and it's not like they've got any claim to more than $7.25/hr.

Jesus Christ, you're the most retarded assfuck I've ever seen.
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Sure, we clearly should pay PhDs working at the DoD and DoE minimum wage, since they're not contributing anything, except maybe atomic power, nuclear weapons, numbers 1, 3, and 6 of the top 10 supercomputers, the global positioning system, and the internet.

And let's just zero all those soldiers pay, I mean, they're government employees too, and it's not like they've got any claim to more than $7.25/hr.

Jesus Christ, you're the most retarded assfuck I've ever seen.

How about teachers in Chicago wanting 6 figures? Or politicians that sit around and twiddle their thumbs?
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i have no sympathy for people who wnt to have 2 kids while only making 13,000 a year. its their fucking fault they can take no responsibilities for their actions. but thn again, they were probably democrat to begin with...democrats dont believe in personal responsibility

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First question any liberal asks


"Well, are they doing better than I am??? WELL THEN BURN THEM AT THE STAKES!"

Entitlement is the subject of any given argument that liberals have.

My family is in like the top 10% so I dunno what you're talking about
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Sure, we clearly should pay PhDs working at the DoD and DoE minimum wage, since they're not contributing anything, except maybe atomic power, nuclear weapons, numbers 1, 3, and 6 of the top 10 supercomputers, the global positioning system, and the internet.

And let's just zero all those soldiers pay, I mean, they're government employees too, and it's not like they've got any claim to more than $7.25/hr.

Jesus Christ, you're the most retarded assfuck I've ever seen.

goddamn you're an idiot. i wasnt saying to reduce their pay, dumbfuck. i was simply stating that out of that 53% are federal empoloyees. they get their paycheck from the regular tax paying citizens. and everytime they create or expand the federal government, thats adding more of a burden to the taxpayers


you cant even comprehend a simple statement. you are the one whos a retarded assfuck. you cant possibly believe that adding more federal jobs will help the society and economy
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It's legal in the law land of taxes. You want them to say "Oh here government, take some more money for no reason!" Do you pay more taxes than necessary? Because thats what you're expecting out of Romney

It's always typical to hear shit from peasants such as yourself that don't make shit for cash and are always bitching about entitlement.

I'm not asking romney to pay more than he is legally required to out of the goodness of his heart. I'm complaining about how it is legal for him to pay so little. Do you understand the difference?

lol, peasants. Romney writes off more on his taxes for his dancing horse than you and most of the country make in a year. How does that make sense? While you are bitching and moaning about poor people getting food stamps and leeching off of you, Romney gets enough of a tax deduction on just his horse to give a dozen families food stamps for a decade.
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My family is in like the top 10% so I dunno what you're talking about

He doesn't know what he is talking about either.
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