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Perhaps.

Perhaps this is a stupid argument because you are taking into account medical practices at the time that weren't made Completely incomparable as they aren't mentioned in the original bill of rights. Furthermore, if anything there is nothing but restrictions on those. Womens suffrage? Where the hell is anyone gaining rights? The only thing I see is men losing the dominance in the household to do something like smack their wife (which in places like the bible, it clearly advocates doing so). Not that I advocate for doing so - but I fail to see where we are given rights in any of those.

Repeal of prohibition I will give you - except that it wasn't a restriction in the first place. Only thing that brought about it coming back was violence
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Perhaps this is a stupid argument because you are taking into account medical practices at the time that weren't made Completely incomparable as they aren't mentioned in the original bill of rights. Furthermore, if anything there is nothing but restrictions on those. Womens suffrage? Where the hell is anyone gaining rights? The only thing I see is men losing the dominance in the household to do something like smack their wife (which in places like the bible, it clearly advocates doing so). Not that I advocate for doing so - but I fail to see where we are given rights in any of those.

Repeal of prohibition I will give you - except that it wasn't a restriction in the first place. Only thing that brought about it coming back was violence

women would be the ones gaining rights on that one. try not to be so self centered and pig headed.
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women would be the ones gaining rights on that one. try not to be so self centered and pig headed.

They NEVER didn't have the right. It was society standards for women to be the woman of the house and to always obey their husband. That standard has changed, but NOTHING was ever put into law except shit like "The woman gets half"
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They NEVER didn't have the right. It was society standards for women to be the woman of the house and to always obey their husband. That standard has changed, but NOTHING was ever put into law except shit like "The woman gets half"

the right to vote.
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I think this moron doesn't understand what suffrage is

too busy protecting cheese cake from the commies, I suppose you can't expect anything above elementary education
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They NEVER didn't have the right. It was society standards for women to be the woman of the house and to always obey their husband. That standard has changed, but NOTHING was ever put into law except shit like "The woman gets half"

jesus christ you really are a neatheral
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jesus christ you really are a neatheral

Jesus christ, you really are retarded if you think it was otherwise
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the right to vote.

That I will give you. It is gender specific, and not exactly "For the people" - but I'll give you that out of pity. C'mon, name ONE thing legit that applied to ALL US CITIZENS. Please.
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That I will give you. It is gender specific, and not exactly "For the people" - but I'll give you that out of pity. C'mon, name ONE thing legit that applied to ALL US CITIZENS. Please.

thats completely irrelevant, especially if one group of people has all the rights to begin with and every other group isn't treated equally. from your standpoint you've gained nothing. from the standpoint of a woman, or a homosexual, or a black person, they've gained quite a bit in terms of rights. and we, as a whole, have gained rights in that regard because we're beginning to treat all citizens equally, not just those with white skin and a penis.

edit: and how can you sit there and bash liberals who fight for any number of rights... while you want more rights? you're the biggest troll going.
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That I will give you. It is gender specific, and not exactly "For the people" - but I'll give you that out of pity. C'mon, name ONE thing legit that applied to ALL US CITIZENS. Please.

What is your point with this? Rights have been expanded since the Constitution was written. Rights usually aren't attained by the entire population in one fell swoop, which is why women, black people, non-land owning men etc etc gained voting rights at different periods in history.
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thats completely irrelevant, especially if one group of people has all the rights to begin with and every other group isn't treated equally. from your standpoint you've gained nothing. from the standpoint of a woman, or a homosexual, or a black person, they've gained quite a bit in terms of rights. and we, as a whole, have gained rights in that regard because we're beginning to treat all citizens equally, not just those with white skin and a penis.

Awesome - so the only thing you can see is the times that CERTAIN GROUPS have gained rights, yet completely blindisded to the amount that has been lost by EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN. Awesome. I understand ignorance runs deep in you

Seriously, that is the mindset of a left wing liberal nut job. All you see is the good in government, being completely ignorant to the rights that have been beaten and bludgeoned to death out of.
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Awesome - so the only thing you can see is the times that CERTAIN GROUPS have gained rights, yet completely blindisded to the amount that has been lost by EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN. Awesome. I understand ignorance runs deep in you

Seriously, that is the mindset of a left wing liberal nut job. All you see is the good in government, being completely ignorant to the rights that have been beaten and bludgeoned to death out of.

whoa whoa whoa wait a fucking minute here buddy. you're sitting there bitching up a storm about us not having gained any rights... and now when you're proven wrong its suddenly about how many rights we've lost. it doesn't work that way. nowhere has it even been insinuated that the loss of rights is being ignored, because its not even being discussed. its irrelevant and you're just trying to make yourself appear right. its not working.

edit: not gaining rights (from your perspective) and the loss of rights are completely different.
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whoa whoa whoa wait a fucking minute here buddy. you're sitting there bitching up a storm about us not having gained any rights... and now when you're proven wrong its suddenly about how many rights we've lost. it doesn't work that way. nowhere has it even been insinuated that the loss of rights is being ignored, because its not even being discussed. its irrelevant and you're just trying to make yourself appear right. its not working.

edit: not gaining rights (from your perspective) and the loss of rights are completely different.

False Good Sir.

You have yet to name a single right that we have gained that applies to all citizens of this nation. This BS of rights related to the changing of gender roles, previous racism - need not apply. So since you can only seem to name stuff related to particular groups - name a right that white male has gained.
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