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Lets do something productive here.

I think we are all more similar than we would like to admit. For starters, we are the last few that have hung around this dying place for this long, and for a particular reason. Despite our arguments, we are all running on a similar frequency, we do share a similarly developed perception of what humanity is, and where humanity is going.

Typically we argue here because its entertaining for us, and at times valuable to refine our language and viewpoints under the unforgiving scrutiny of each other.

But instead of arguing for own desires which isn't really much greater than masturbation, lets recognize the similarity of frequency in each of us, and combine these to identify what exactly it is we should aim argumentation at towards other groups of people who really need to be shot down, and refined.

How I propose this to be done is each of us can post a list of things, reasoning with these things would be good. But each of these things in the list are something that we can reasonably assert, if argumentative energy were put towards them, then this would somehow help steer our culture into a better place, and we would have a clearer, and less friction-prone trajectory on where to evolve humanity.

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Christianity, Catholicism, Religion. Pretty much any and all models of reality that people adhere to which they themselves cannot update, and limits there further exploration of things. If you agree to this point, cite in your quote, and offer means in which we could remove it from culture.

Relativism. The notion that anyones opinion is, and always will be, on equal footing with anyone elses. I think this is the epitome of intellectual cop-out, it's a means of a person feigning the need to contemplate deeply on other peoples viewpoints, and ultimately giving the person themselves the ability to cop-out on the deep contemplation of their own viewpoints. What I generally mean with this is, I think word 'Opinion' should be removed. No one should ever be backing up anything they say with 'heres my opinion' or 'I have a right to an opinion', as though just the fact they eat, shit, breathe and sleep somehow gives them entitlement to assume they get to impose any will on anyone else. Someone running on this paradigm is an immediate red flag to me that they are stupid, and have not developed their viewpoints very thoroughly. Otherwise they would have real reasoning to rest their assertions on rather than 'I am entitled to an opinion'. People like this also worry me because it means they have not developed the intellectual or cognitive capacity to accurately judge other peoples 'opinions'. I can't think of anyway to get this out of our culture other than be an asshole of some sort, so I am all ears for better ways.

People who don't GOOGLE everything they think / believe. It annoys me to no end to hear someone go on for like 10 minutes about some belief, or opinion they have, and it is most obviously absurd, and then you ask them 'Did you google that?' And they say no. In fact for alot of 'arguments' I encounter in real life, I've simply stopped arguing with the person and asked them if they googled what they are saying / thinking, if they say no, I suggest they do so. I think this is a good component to enter into one's brain that, instead of outwardly arguing with people who you know will be so easily shot down by just a little bit of Googling on their own, just tell them to go to Google, to then hopefully instill in them the habit of better investigating what is going through their head.

Those are my big three. I think if things could be better directed to make those changes in our culture, we would be on a better route forward.

Additional components? Or ideas on how to direct the integration of already discussed components?
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oh look. instead of taking a dick in the ass you started another thread about the same fucking shit as every other thread you've started within the past 10 years.

we fucking get it. you don't like christians. and you feel you think differently from all of the rest of us.

move the fuck on.
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"dio" you are nothing but a dumbass. Plain and simple. Your threads are beyond stupid and are meaningless as well. You are just a weak person living behind a keyboard and a computer screen thinking up drivel just to build yourself up. Give your crap a rest.
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Christians have always been the oppressed and never the oppressors. Anyone who disagrees is either a troll, or a heretic.
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I hope to dear fuck that you are copying/pasting troll. The fact that you make a wall of text is simply mind boggling funny.

Then again, if you're high on schrooms and acid all day, I can kind of see why these threads occur.
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Guys this is a serious subject.

WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
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oh look. instead of taking a dick in the ass you started another thread about the same fucking shit as every other thread you've started within the past 10 years.

we fucking get it. you don't like christians. and you feel you think differently from all of the rest of us.

move the fuck on.

This is supposed to be a rehash thread concerning certain components of our culture that would be most beneficial to refine, to bring up new potential components or discuss already brought up components.

So of course the same topics are going to be stated

But this is where we can discuss, are the components that I, or anyone else bring up, are they actually something worthwhile to focus on?
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Guys this is a serious subject.

WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

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This is supposed to be a rehash thread concerning certain components of our culture that would be most beneficial to refine, to bring up new potential components or discuss already brought up components.

So of course the same topics are going to be stated

But this is where we can discuss, are the components that I, or anyone else bring up, are they actually something worthwhile to focus on?

nothing you bring up is ever worth focusing on.
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Not this shit again.. Seriously. Dio, just fucking kill yourself. You obviously are so miserable in your own life you have to make others feel moronic for their beliefs.
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Not this shit again.. Seriously. Dio, just fucking kill yourself. You obviously are so miserable in your own life you have to make others feel moronic for their beliefs.

would you apply that same kind of reasoning to richard dawkins?
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